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CrowLia
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Not only art, knowledge in general. As a History student, this is something we hear all the time "all these hundreds of books were lost in X war; all these unique treaties were burnt by religious fanatics; we know this book existed but it is lost and we'll probably never find it". I don't have exact numbers, but I'd say roughly 90% of Pre-Columbus mexican codexes were burnt by Spanish frays. And according to one of my teachers, the totality of original Ancient Greek texts we've managed to salvage up to this day don't amount to more than 200-500 texts (which is extremely few if you think this is the legacy of a whole civilisation). The idea alone is kind of despairing. So of course I'm happy to hear that this old piece of Anime's history could be recovered. I'm not much of a fan of old school anime, but from a historical point of view, I'd really want to watch it |
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jymmy
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Depends on the title. I genuinely liked Hakujaden, Kumo to Tulip and especially Horus: Prince of the Sun, but there are also a lot of shorts that are mainly of only academic interest: Namakura Katana and Kobu-tori, for example. And Katsudou Shashin is just moeshit killing the industry. But yeah, I find the 70s are when anime that seem like complete, good stories worthwhile regardless of historical context tend to have become more common. |
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Apollo-kun
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chikara_to_Onna_no_Yo_no_Naka
I wish somebody could find THIS. The first ever sound anime. Probably lost during WWII, unfortunately, much like the "King Kong" Edo film. |
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blindworm
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i don't care about watching this, but it's awesome to know the title of the oldest anime, and just how far back it goes
this post should be easily accessible so people can learn about this |
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walw6pK4Alo
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It's not the oldest anime, if we're considering animation from Japan by Japanese as anime, not by a long shot. It's just the oldest that's been made for TV.
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Haterater
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@ mdo7
Makes my heart break to know alot of films were lost like that. Wonder if there were some who tried to save some for historical reasons as best they can. Good that this anime wasn't lost and can now be viewed and preserved. |
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mdo7
 Posts: 6253 Location: Katy, Texas, USA |
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Remember this was way before VHS, DVDs, Blu-rays, and digital technology. so back then they didn't take film preservation seriously until late 1970's like MGM (because of the MGM film vault fire in 1967), and film directors like Steven Spielberg, Martin Scorsese, and other people (Ted Turner, Clint Eastwood, Francis Ford Coppola) help make film preservation vital to keep old film alive. With today's technology all those old films that survived can get digital transfer (and restoration) so people can watch all these old films for historical purpose. Yes I'm thankful that old anime is discovered and saved and hopefully will be getting a digital restoration/transfer.
Glad to know I'm not the only one that know about the old Japanese King Kong films. Thanks for mentioning those films. |
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Ambimunch
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Thats an amazing discovery! Makes me think that If all these companies cleaned their warehouses sometimes, they would find more things of the sort xD
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Joe anime
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Zin5ki
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Heavens, that most certainly trumps us.[/quote] |
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Chrno2
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I love stories like this. It's amazing when they come across films that have survived post WWII or before. I want to hear more news on this.
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RichardFromMarple
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This reminds me of the missing epsiodes of Doctor Who turning up every now & again.
Quite a lot of UK TV has been lost, often the tapes were wiped or even filmed series were junked after a few years because they weren't considered worth keeping. I did hear of a Japanese puppet show that was popular in the early days of Japanese TV which has been mostly lost, but at least episode has been recreated by surviving cast members. |
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AlanMintaka
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The burning of the library at Alexandria is responsible for most of that loss. The Ptolemies had taken care to warehouse all of their great literature there. At one time Caesar was blamed for the burning, which supposedly spread from fires he had set on ships in the harbor. Nowadays the historians think that the ruination of the library was a gradual process encompassing many fires and other losses resulting from simple lack of preservation methods for the old scrolls. What always bothered me about that whole scenario is that the Ptolemies never conscripted/enlisted/forced (whatever they did in those days to create a labor force) scribes to hand-copy the scrolls for storage in different locations. The Church did this during the Medieval Age, and long before Gutenberg came along they managed to mass-produce, distribute, and store a lot of scripture for safekeeping. If only the Ptolemies had done that.... |
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KabaKabaFruit
 Posts: 1871 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba |
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This little piece of music should fit the situation perfectly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VRr9NG7RE0
.......how? |
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walw6pK4Alo
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It's film, you should be able to digitize it at high resolutions even if it were 8mm. The article mentions the condition of the film is good, so making at least a 720p transfer should be easypeasy. |
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