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WhiteHairGirls



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:47 pm Reply with quote
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It's not just the jealousy though... what they get upset about is the part that should actually be a positive. They get upset that the girl turns down the guy they they like... isn't that exactly what they should want?


Damn I forgot about that part. Now that you mention that, I think have seen this before in some manga. Something along the lines, "OMG he isn't good enough for you, I shall hurt you."
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:49 pm Reply with quote
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WhiteHairGirls wrote:
Spastic Minnow wrote:
^^^
Most of that story was dealt with in Nadeko's first route.
spoiler[There were two snake curses on Nadeko, one from the boy who got turned down, one from the girl in her year that liked that boy and was upset that he confessed to Nadeko (why this is a problem seems to be a Japanese thing- it's not the first time I've seen it as a reason for a girl disliking another girl in an anime)..]


Ugh I don't think its just a Japanese thing. I have seen this in American shows and cartoons. Girls can be scary creatures. Twisted Evil


It's not just the jealousy though... what they get upset about is the part that should actually be a positive. They get upset that the girl turns down the guy they they like... isn't that exactly what they should want?


"She thinks she's better than X-kun? Who does that bitch think she is?"

Honestly, it's the exact same reason people get so upset when other people insult their favorite TV shows. A lot of your sense of identity is invested in what you like, so if other people don't like what you like then you feel like you're being personally insulted.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:54 pm Reply with quote
I thought the deal with the snake was that Koyomi was not actually able to destroy the snakes, but just send them back to the one that made the original curse. I thought it was a case where instead of having one person suffer he instead made two, but they were only half what one would have had (so less life threatening) and they were the ones that did the original curse and deserved less sympathy. So if spoiler[Oshino did get rid of one there would be the other, although there could be the chance that Ougi ensured it would continue just to get to Kaiki indirectly].
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:01 pm Reply with quote
DuskyPredator wrote:
I thought the deal with the snake was that Koyomi was not actually able to destroy the snakes, but just send them back to the one that made the original curse. I thought it was a case where instead of having one person suffer he instead made two, but they were only half what one would have had (so less life threatening) and they were the ones that did the original curse and deserved less sympathy. So if spoiler[Oshino did get rid of one there would be the other, although there could be the chance that Ougi ensured it would continue just to get to Kaiki indirectly].


One of the snakes was dealt with by the charm Oshino gave him (the one that Nadeko held on to while praying). However, the charm could only affect one snake, and Oshino was never told that there were two. The second escaped and attacked the boy (who eventually hunted down Kaiki).

Oshino never did anything other than give Araragi the charm: when Hanekawa asked about the snake she was asking about the first snake, which Oshino did indeed deal with. Some people get that confused for some reason, perhaps forgetting that no time at all has passed between arcs, it's literally the next day.
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