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hrtrunks



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:04 pm Reply with quote
Hmm... I dont get this. How can Howl's Moving Castle be the most grosing movie in both 2004 and 2005?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:24 pm Reply with quote
how ironic that an japanese film brought in the most money, considerig how the rest of the year has went. must have been the hype.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:05 pm Reply with quote
hrtrunks wrote:
Hmm... I don't get this. How can Howl's Moving Castle be the most grosing movie in both 2004 and 2005?


Well, the movie was released in late 2004. So officially its a 2004 movie.

But a lot of the money it earned was earned in 2005, so it should be included in that chart as well.

If you're making a year by year chart, you have two choices, either count the entire box office take of a movie in the year it was released, our break it up into portions for the two years it straddles. Most go with the first option.

However I wasn't making a chart for multiple years, just looking at one year and decided to go with the total take. I guess I could have gone with take in 2005.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:58 pm Reply with quote
Thanks on clearing that up! Because i saw that Howl's Moving castle was the no. 1 of movie of 2004 in Japan here: http://www.eiren.org/toukei/index.html

So, i was wondering. Smile

Can you tell me how much did it earn in 2005?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:04 pm Reply with quote
Rofl... so the 2nd Naruto movie didn't even earn a place in the top 25? Weird.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:48 pm Reply with quote
*uses calculator* hmm...about 187 million in US dollars earned for Howl's Moving Castle. Is that about standard for the top earner in Japan or was it a slow year?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 10:30 pm Reply with quote
Yup, really strange about the second Naruto movie. I heard it was much better than the first one.

187 million [i calculated 194 but nevermind Smile] i think thats a lot, isn't it? I mean if you look at the year 2003 you'll see the no. 1 movie was some "Rainbow Bridge" and it made 173 million. Less than Howl.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:21 am Reply with quote
hrtrunks wrote:
Can you tell me how much did it earn in 2005?


About 14 billion in 2004 and 8 billion in 2005.

My total appears to be 10% higher that the Motion Picture Producers Association of Japan numbers. I'd trust their numbers more than the totals I came up with, but it should be relatively safe to assume that the spread is similar.

So somewhere around 13 and 7 billion yen in 2004 and 2005 respectively.

I expect they will release accurate numbers for 2005 eventually, but these numbers will not include movies released in 2004 (ie: Howl's Moving Castle).

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:29 am Reply with quote
Fallen Embers wrote:
*uses calculator* hmm...about 187 million in US dollars earned for Howl's Moving Castle. Is that about standard for the top earner in Japan or was it a slow year?


Actually, it was a pretty good year for the top movie. ALthough Spirited Away made more.

Two things to remember, there are only 127 million people in Japan, versus 295 million in the USA, and Americans are huge consumers of movies compared to the rest of the world, including Japan.

If you convert the numbers by population, it comes out to the equivalent of a $434 million dollar movie. Much better than the $380 million made by Revenge of the Sith, 2005's top movie in America. (And Revenge of the Sith cost $113 million to make, while Howl's Moving Castle only cost $20 million or so...)

Again, let me remind you that the average Japanese person spends less on movies than the Average american (I'm certain that if you search for it you can find the stats, I'd do it but I'm occupied, maybe later this week).

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:35 am Reply with quote
I think some of the ones that made the list were funny. Like National Treasure. How could a (poor) movie about AMERICA's national treasures be popular in Japan? And also, on the Phantom of the Opera, was it a subbed or re-dubbed version? I'm curious..
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:06 am Reply with quote
Most American movies are dubbed in Japanese as far as I know.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 3:58 am Reply with quote
taconinja wrote:
And also, on the Phantom of the Opera, was it a subbed or re-dubbed version? I'm curious..


It was dubbed, I've heard a clip of the singing. They did a really good job with the dubbing, in my opinion. It's got to be terribly hard to match up entirely different words with the exact same music. And...yeah, whoever voiced the phantom sounded hot.


Did I just say that? Surprised
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:53 pm Reply with quote
midori kou wrote:
Most American movies are dubbed in Japanese as far as I know.

As for live action movie, mostly subbed in theater, dubbed in TV.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:06 pm Reply with quote
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If you convert the numbers by population, it comes out to the equivalent of a $434 million dollar movie. Much better than the $380 million made by Revenge of the Sith, 2005's top movie in America. (And Revenge of the Sith cost $113 million to make, while Howl's Moving Castle only cost $20 million or so...)


Worth noting that Howl has earned about $235 million around the world, while Revenge of the Sith earned $850 million (Spirited Away earned $275 million).

So obviously the American movie starts to look like a better earner when the entire international market is considered.

But still, in terms of ROI, the Japanese movie is more impressive, earning 11.75 times its production budget, while Revenge of the Sith earned 7.5 times its production budget.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:45 pm Reply with quote
The US movies are world standard. That means everybody in the world is watching them [ok, maybe not in Irak Smile].

Now in Japan, looking at a total gross of SW3 and Howl, Howl beat SW really bad. I mean, more than 2x the total gross. 22 billion VS 9 billion. And SW being lets say, a somewhat of a legend, and a movie that has a lot of fans, plus American movies are popular in Japan, it just goes to show that Miyazaki is just unbeatable in Japan, even by Hollywod. Still, Spirited Away made even more and is still the no. 1 in Japanese box office history.

But... there are two things that i just can't understand. First thing is, Naruto movie 2. The first Naruto movie was on the top 20 Japanese movies in 2004, but i heard that the second movie was much better, but didn't make it in the top 25 in 2005! HOW?

The second thing is the year 2001. Where is Cowboy Bebop: KOHD!? That movie also didn't make the top 20 Japanese movies in 2001! HOW?
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