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NEWS: 2 Aki Sora Manga Books to No Longer Be Printed After July

So is this a serious literary take on the theme of incest? No!

This is softcore porn

And to throw a hissy fit because people call your porn for what it is, is petulant and shameful.

The fact that he is refusing this shows that it is not literary concerns, but financial, that is driving this.

I have no sympathy for these fools.

Jarm wrote:

Interesting, how people who say "II don't like the idea of young people reading raunchy manga" are arguing from the position of their own personal values rather than the values of the country's people in question.. . Japan is an odd country. They hunt whales and dolphins in the name of science, allow their nationals to take take full custody and refuge when they escape from marriages involving foreign nationals, allow only naturalized citizens to vote-no duel citizenship- and have pretty tight laws on immigration.

And it's a very sexist country. And as they'd probably say: "... And Proud of It!"

Jarm wrote:

Does any of this make me angry? No, I honestly could care less... Because I don't live there. So, it's not my business how the the Japanese people want to govern themselves. Nor is my or your business to decide what Japanese children should be reading. We're only throwing our support behind this, because the industry and a large majority of mangaka, otaku and non-otaku are against this- no real influence from us. So the question here isn't if the law is justified, it's if you standby the industry and the mangaka or not. You people can argue about morals and beliefs, but as for me I'm going to get behind the mangaka!

I'm going behind the whole Japanese people, not just the mangaka, what ever they vote on. That's how democracy works, after all!

Wait.

Wait wait wait wait.

Aki-Sora isn't sold with an "adults only" label? Really? I know they don't show any genitals but it's still really, really, really graphic. I'm one of those people who believe there's a fine line between what's erotic and what's flat out porn, and Aki-Sora is 100% porn. There's no debate. It's porn. I'm honestly shocked it's not already sold as "adults only"

Dear ANN Editors
I think i should tell you that Masahiro Itosugi, the manga artist who created Aki-Sora is actually a woman, not a man.


What? You think only men do ero manga? Woman can Ero manga as well.

Dear ANN Editors
I think i should tell you that Masahiro Itosugi, the manga artist who created Aki-Sora is actually a woman, not a man.

What? You think only men do ero manga? Woman can Ero manga as well.

leoval wrote:

Beyond the debate if Porn should be labeled as such and marketed only to adults (which I think has been settled de facto in the western world for quite some time), there is no denying that Aki-Sora is smut pure and simple. Unadulterated sexual content, full frontal nudity, explicit sex scenes and dialog along the lines: "Have sex with me next" "no I'm next" "don't cheat I am next" (literally 4 different naked girls asking the hero for sex). If that doesn't qualify for an Adults Only rating I don't know what does.

No, it is not. People need to get there heads out of there prudish asses. As he and all the other publishers have said, it does NOT qualify for porn since there are NO depictions of genitals whatsoever. In fact it is the same in the US. How is this any different from a raunchy R-rated movie? Or in fact, what about those movies with even more sexually explicit versions sold as uncut and therefore unrated versions on home video in the US -- again not porn, not restricted.

As he mentioned it would've been VERY different if he had decided to make it an actual R-18 work (again, you would've been staring at genitals in your face, where there are NONE here) If you've ever seen any hentai or ero-manga, then you'd know how this does not approach that level at all.

Besides he mentions it isn't the erotic nature of the work that's the problem, it is the subject matter.

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materials that the Tokyo Metropolitan Government considers "to be excessively disrupting of social order."

Note that bill 156 itself says nothing about how graphic or explicit it needs to be but rather that if the work depicts the subject matter in a way that is “unjustifiably glorified or exaggerated manner.” basically meaning if it gives out the message, "hey, there's nothing wrong with this" and indeed, it is ironic because in real life incest is not illegal.

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He also said that he "probably" cannot release volumes 1 and 3 on Ken Akamatsu's J-Comi service or other forms of electronic publishing.

This is where he's wrong though. He certainly can as one the acknowledged loopholes around bill 156 is that it does not cover online or digital goods, nor does it apply to retail outside of Tokyo for that matter. However it is likely that his publisher does not want to take the chance to draw more attention from the Tokyo board.

I don't want to argue about Japan being a sexist country... but tell me what country isn't?

And if you think, Bill 156 is democracy.

I'm an advocate of personal responsibility. If you are a parent and you don't want a child to read something, you can:

My point is that you shouldn't ban something,

Friday 22nd April, 06:08 AM JST

TOKYO — Major Japanese Internet service providers on Thursday began blocking access to more than 100 websites that offer child pornography.

The Internet Content Safety Association, which was established by 21 major Internet service providers in March, said users will be denied access to such websites, possibly including sites containing a single still or moving child pornography picture.

Police and the Internet Hotline Center Japan, both of which monitor illegal information on the Internet, will deliver their data on child porn websites to the Internet Content Safety Association, association officials said.

The association will listen to lawyers and experts and determine whether those images are child pornography. Member providers will in turn block access to those websites, they said.

In Japan, nine leading Internet service providers account for about 70% of all the country’s Internet service market. Among them are NTT Communications Corp, NEC Biglobe Ltd, Nifty Corp and Yahoo Japan Corp.

MrTerrorist wrote:

Dear ANN Editors I think i should tell you that Masahiro Itosugi, the manga artist who created Aki-Sora is actually a woman, not a man.

"Masahiro" is a quite masculine name; much more so than, say, Hiromu (Hiromi) Arakawa, which is similar to Alexander/Alexandra in English. I wonder why she chose it.

MrTerrorist wrote:

What? You think only men do ero manga? Woman can Ero manga as well.

Some of my favorite ero-mangaka are female: Towa Oshima, Yumi Nakata, Mitsuki Nikaido, plus several I suspect but have no proof.

DangerMouse wrote:

Koi Kaze's another serious work with the theme, and that one's gotten tons of great reviews on numerous sites with the critics.

I believe Koi Kaze and Aki Sora are vastly differently not to mention the former is superior in every way. The similar theme are however dealt with differently. I don't think believe it is wise to use Aki Sora to compare it to Koi Kaze... somewhere saying this bill could affect Koi Kaze as evidence.

It's not banned. It could easily be released with the sticker.

Glorifying incest on any level is wrong imo