Forum - View topicNEWS: 2 Aki Sora Manga Books to No Longer Be Printed After July
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Starsplash Taiwan
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I can't argue with ur response to 1 and 3 because ur right.
I still hate the fact that everyone else has to be punished because parents can't control their kid and rely on the governement on such issues like this. Thats still how I see why this ban was created. |
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enurtsol
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Technically, it's the minors who will be inconvenienced. If you're an adult, you should be OK. BTW, how's it going in Taiwan? Haven't been there in years! 
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Moomintroll
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That's not what censorship means. According to that definition beer is "censored" because it has an age limit whereas orange juice does not and roller coasters are "censored" because you have to be a certain height to ride them. As to the content, how does one impose ratings without reference to content? One would hope that context is taken into account but that's a different discussion.
This has always been the case - not all media are judged the same way and visual media tends to get a harder time than prose media. If you're making a slippery slope argument though, it seems worth pointing out that various forms of visual media are age-rated in most countries and have been for a long time but I can't think of any that age-rate literature.
True. But limiting gratuitously sexual material to adults hasn't exactly ended the production of such materials in any other country and, given that the author is refusing to re-release the work with an adults only label, we'll never know one way or the other whether or not this title would have done okay without sales to teens.
All laws impose the framer's idea of right and wrong on to everybody else. But since the bill was introduced by a popularly elected administration (and seems to have fairly broad support outside the otaku set), it's not clear why you think it's the few imposing their morality on the many? Surely it's the other way around?
There are a number of reasons why the Comic Book Code failed. It's worth noting, though, that the CBC was self-imposed by the comic book industry and had no weight of law behind it so it's not really analogous with this bill. ---
Quite possibly.
Well they'd need to have encountered it initially in order to come to the conclusion that they didn't like it, no? If one can hold one's nose long enough, one can find diamonds buried in the toxic sludge and, with experience, it becomes easier to detect the gems without getting too soiled in the process. Well, at least as far as manga's concerned - I've given up on anime aside from the occasional theatrical release.
Depends on the context of the material and the audience it's marketed to. From what I can tell from the ill-tempered discussion you've all been having, this would certainly not get a pass on the basis of context were it being rated by the BBFC.
All ratings of fictional media are based on fictional situations. Violent horror movies aren't rated 18 because a real hooker really got ripped to pieces by a horde of real zombies. And, again, it's not being "censored", it's being age-restricted. Not the same thing. If you overuse - and misuse - a word too much it tends to lose its power. You're crying wolf.
Oh, please. Martin Niemöller was an ultra-conservative monarchist, a retired naval officer who pined for the social values of the Kaiser's time and a devout Lutheran pastor. He was neither a libertarian nor a socially progressive liberal and he was most certainly not in favour of the legal dissemination of pornography (and, regardless of whether or not you think this particular title is pornography, he most certainly would have considered it such). Niemöller would have been horrified to have his name associated with your argument. Moreover, to invoke the name of a man who spent years in a concentration camp standing up to the most monstrous regime in history - with reference to a quote in which he talks about groups of people who were imprisoned, brutalised and murdered in their millions - in order to make a point about placing age restrictions on comic books would be laughable if it weren't so stupid, so inappropriate, so grotesque and so sadly misinformed. Anyway, if you're going for the horribly misjudged cliché of the thread award, aren't you supposed to start by misquoting Voltaire before gradually working your way up through ever less appropriate references before finally peaking with Niemöller?
Quite. But since both we and they (the Japanese) are living in democracies, it's the only political context we have to work with in terms of this discussion. Top marks on the angsty cynicism though. |
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Kyaa the Catlord
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And so begins the inevitable slide to nazi zombies eating our women. Film at 11.
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egoist
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egoist wonders how much of that crap is relevant to his post or topic at hand.
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Moomintroll
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Crap. I just remembered why I generally avoid this kind of nonsense debate on ANN these days: otaku are seemingly incapable of civilised discourse when they think somebody might be about to take their imaginary girlfriends away.
Well, the half of it that was addressed to you with regard to the former and all of it with regard to the latter. Fear not though - I'll leave you in peace now to get on with launching your entertainingly (if unaccountably) furious mixture of endearingly juvenile playground insults, ill-thought through one-liners and amusingly adolescent angst at anybody who has the temerity to disagree with you. You go get 'em champ! Quick word of advice though: the whole speaking in the third person thing only really works for schizophrenics, mad dictators and inbred royalty. Might want to re-think that. |
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Monad
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Japanese doing what they do best. Basically being p****s. This people can't even imagine actually standing up for something.
 They are so used to bow they can't stop. If publishers ignored the law then Tokyo wouldn't be able to enforce it and they will have been just fine.
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