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NEWS: Canadian Child Exploitation Coordination Center Misdefines Anime


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Ongaku_no_tenshi



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:06 pm Reply with quote
My god. I would hate to be a Canadian citizen. I feel so bad for all the anime fans living in Canada.

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space clam



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:06 pm Reply with quote
Canned in Banada.

Just another example of a lazily written article regarding a subject in which the author was certainly not interested.
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Sethimothy



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:19 pm Reply with quote
I wonder how many Canadians, upset with the recent government elections and desiring a country that doesn't quote Wikipedia in its articles about elements of popular culture, will loudly proclaim that they are moving to the US?

Probably one or two. I laugh at them, just as I laugh at the half dozen very vocal Americans that did the same after last elections.
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hikaru004



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:30 pm Reply with quote
Oh well, typos and misuse of statements happen. Someone should have reviewed it more thoroughly before publishing it.

They only need to correct the mistakes.

At least, they are trying to educate the public which is a good thing.
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renegade_bit



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:34 pm Reply with quote
Yeah ... that was something pretty poorly written. Sometimes I wonder what my tax dollars do and now I know. I wonder if I can get hired to write crap like that and take an amazing pension when I retire. I think I can do a half decent job atleast.

I'd think that with all the money that the gov't leeches off of the citizens, they'd manage to actually do a decent job. Sometimes the smallest amount of hope is just too much already.

edit:

And yes, Canada is a very odd place with (il)legal weed everywhere, Quebec wanting to be its own country and the legalization of homosexual marriages.
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Flipnofunk



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:42 pm Reply with quote
Ongaku_no_tenshi wrote:
My god. I would hate to be a Canadian citizen. I feel so bad for all the anime fans living in Canada.


haha theres nothing wrong in being a Canadian citizen. Im proud of it. it not uncommon to see people read manga around Toronto.theres a big boom of anime stores in my area (though they sell bootlegs). even the local book store (chapters/indigo) has a huge selection. they even have conventions going on soon (Anime north, the canadian national expo - now called Fan expo Canada for legal reasons just to name a few).

space clam wrote:

Just another example of a lazily written article regarding a subject in which the author was certainly not interested.


The quote sounds right on the dot.
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kusanagi-sama



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:45 pm Reply with quote
I feel sorry for you Canadians. Pretty soon, the Canadian Police will be lobbying to make all animation illegal because of this poorly written article.
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Ongaku_no_tenshi



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:48 pm Reply with quote
I'm sorry if I offended you. I was just thinking that obtaining a lot of the anime you want would be a not-so-easy task, when it should be.
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Sethimothy



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:49 pm Reply with quote
Ongaku_no_tenshi wrote:
I'm sorry if I offended you. I was just thinking that obtaining a lot of the anime you want would be a not-so-easy task, when it should be.


So long as there's no questionable depictions of underaged individuals having sex in your favorite shows I'd imagine it wouldn't be a problem.
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fargazer



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:05 pm Reply with quote
I sent them a polite email listing the various quotes from their own references that contradicted their statements. I also gave them a reference to Susan Napier's book "Anime: from Akira to Howl's Moving Castle".
Quote:
Greetings!

I have recently read your "Hentai" fact sheet website
(http://ncecc.ca/fact_sheets/anime_e.htm), and find you confuse the
terms anime and hentai.

Briefly, anime is animation made in Japan; it encompasses many styles
and genres, including a pornographic genre called "hentai". Equating
anime to hentai is analogous to calling all novels pornographic.

Per your own references:

"The term "hentai" may also be used to refer to pornographic animation
in general that is not necessarily anime or manga" (Hentai 2005)

"Anime (???) is a style of cartoon animation originating in Japan"
"Anime is aimed at a broad range of audiences because there are a wide
range of different genres that any series may be categorized under."
(both Anime 2005)

"three broad categories ? ?hentai? (?perverse? in Japanese), which is
the hard-core school of the art style known as ?anime?" (Hoffman 2004)

"Animated erotica (known in the West as hentai, but in Japan as 'adult
anime') is a popular but a minor genre in Japan and generally maintains
the same style of animation seen in other popular forms of Japanese
animation (anime). " (Pornography in Japan 2005)

Though hentai is one of many genres of anime, nowhere in your listed
references do I see any statement that anime is hentai. Per your
references, your statement of:

"...adult oriented material that contains scenes depicting sexual acts
is not considered pornography if the sexual content is shown to be
relevant to the plot (Pornography 2005). This material, which in Western
nations is referred to as animé..."

is clearly false.

I see you are using Wikipedia as your primary reference. Another
possible reference is Susan J. Napier's "Anime: from Akira to Howl's
Moving Castle" Ms. Napier is Professor of Japanese Literature at the
University of Texas Austin, and gives lectures about anime in the United
States. In her book, she describes anime as follows:

"...anime works include everything that Western audiences are accustomed
to seeing in live-action works -- romance, comedy, tragedy, adventure,
even psychological probing of a kind seldom attempted in recent
mass-culture Western film or television" (pages 6 and 7). Her book also
has an extensive bibliography that could prove helpful to you for
further reference.

Equating such masterpieces as "Grave of the Fireflies", "Spirited Away",
and "Akira" to hentai is a gross mis characterization of anime. I hope
this communication is helpful to you, and clarifies the differences
between anime and hentai.

It will be interesting to see what I get for a reply, if anything.
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MaikeruXX



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:07 pm Reply with quote
I guess Spirited Away and all of the other Miyazaki Films will be considered Porn too. But this is seriously screwed up.
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MasaMuneCyrus



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:11 pm Reply with quote
Considering that the largest Anime localization company in the world (I'm assuming Viz is the largest) has their headquarters in Canada, they 'ought to get their facts straight.
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MaikeruXX



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:15 pm Reply with quote
MasaMuneCyrus wrote:
Considering that the largest Anime localization company in the world (I'm assuming Viz is the largest) has their headquarters in Canada, they 'ought to get their facts straight.



I forgot about that, i wonder if they will be coming to the U.S. soon because of this.
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Flipnofunk



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:18 pm Reply with quote
Sethimothy wrote:

So long as there's no questionable depictions of underaged individuals having sex in your favorite shows I'd imagine it wouldn't be a problem.


i think thats what this person was trying to prove but went off abit when writing this article or added unncessary info.

kusanagi-sama wrote:
I feel sorry for you Canadians. Pretty soon, the Canadian Police will be lobbying to make all animation illegal because of this poorly written article.


heh i think the Canadian police have better things to worry about then drawn profanity. heres hoping they fix the large gun violence thats starting here


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Ongaku_no_tenshi



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:20 pm Reply with quote
I can't even understand why a anime localization company would even consider setting up a Canadian headquaters, considering all the restrictions there are there on anime itself. I mean come on, the anime stores there OPENLY and WITHOUT PUNISHMENT OR FINES sell BOOTLEG ANIME. What's wrong with this picture?
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