Forum - View topicNEWS: Canadian Child Exploitation Coordination Center Misdefines Anime
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Sethimothy
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I did. Something about how the English main page has, in noticable text "Welcome to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit." Also, something about how anyone with a the slighest understanding of acadamia is supposed to be somewhat familiar with the source they are citing and take anything found on the internet with a grain of salt. Furthermore, how Wikipedia has been in the news numourous times as a less-than-trustworthy and often publicly criticized sourced. Then again, I'm sure there are some individuals who aren't familiar with Wikipedia, and might take it at face value. Usually, these people are quickly corrected by their teachers or eventually shown the error of their ways, not writing articles for government websites. |
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aaito
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Yeah, its a mistake I'm not proud of as a Canadian citizen. But..come on...saying that you'd never want to live/be in Canada? Don't make me laugh. One mistake on an article that really has no significants AT ALL in the Canadian Government does not mean that Canada is a bad place to live. I've been an avid anime collector for many many years and not once have I been looked at poorly for buying anime. I think this is just a narrow minded view by a small section of the governement.
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Sethimothy
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I must admit, of all the reasons one would choose to not live in Canada, this hardly flickers across the radar.
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KittiCat1031
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I believe that the only "fact" that this person has proven is that he or she still needs more research on the concepts of hentai and anime. The so-called "fact sheets" state that "this (adult oriented) material, which in Western nations is referred to as anime". The US is a Western nation. I believe that the US knows how to differentiate between anime and hentai and it is, therefore, wrong to make such a generalization. As far as I know, Canada is the only Western nation who considers anime as "adult oriented material".
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MasaMuneCyrus
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Well. Moot point for me, then. 
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HitokiriShadow
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Okay, the article was poorly written and in addition to using Wikipedia as a source, it got things wrong that wikipedia was probably actually right about. And it even more distressing that this article appeared on a government sanctioned web site.
However, I really think people are making a much bigger deal out of this than it really is. I seriously doubt that people are going to start campaigning to ban anime and manga because of this article. And even if some people did (God help Canada), it would still need to go through the standard legal procedures (whatever they are in Canada) to be passed. In the process, I"m sure the truth would come out and once people actualy realized what anime really was (and how stupid they looked), the law would be dead in the water. |
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Moepoe
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Ok, I can see that a lot of people do not understand what that article was trying to state, i can see how you can get that they were grouping anime and hentai into one grouping. However, if you read it from an objective point of view and if you have any knowledge of the Canadian judiciary system you can see where they are coming from. The entire point of that article was about the concern in which they have with the child pornography, not the idea of hentai its self. They were just trying to get to the public that there is this threat of child pornography that is becoming more, and more prolific, and easily accessible to children. Since there are many instances of Hentai that do fall under the definition that has been set by the Canadian criminal code as per
S. 163.1(1) Definition of “child pornography” – in this section, “child pornography” means (a) a photographic, film video or other visual representation, whether or not it was made by electronic or mechanical means. (i) That shows a person whole it or is depicted as being under the age of eighteen years and is engaged in or is depicted as engaged in explicit sexual activity, or (ii) The dominant characteristic or which is the depiction, for a sexual purpose, pf a sexual organ or the anal region of a person under the age of eighteen years; or (b) Any written material or visual representation that advocated or counsels sexual activity with a person under the age of eighteen years that would be an offence under this act. As being an anime fan and a student studying law in Canada I can see both sides but remember this is not an attack on anime as a whole and this can turn from being a simple thing advising people to watch out, to saying that Canada is bad and evil? As for that I would have to say that people that have said that Canada is being arrogant I would have to say no, they missed some facts and to err is human, I would have to say that the one calling the arrogance is the arrogant one. So please remember different countries have different laws and it is the duty of the government to protect the people and up hold these laws. That’s my two cents and thank you. |
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insain_dragon
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True, but you do have to admit to a certain amount of misleading info presented, and that the article itself seems slightly biased, if only due to the misrepresentation of "anime" as "hentai." Despite being an American, I would like my government to get at least some of its facts right. I’m sure Canadians would too.
"This material, which in Western nations is referred to as animé" should at least be: "This material, which in Western nations [can be referred to as simply] animé..." |
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Solar Kitty-chan
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You know, it's real easy for all you non-Canadians to crack on our government for it's ignorance towards anime, but I have seen President Bush' own ignorance to this. I have seen a few things relating to that, such as anime being, essentially, a tool of the Yakuza.
I am a proud Canadian but the people who wrote this article needed to do better research. That much is true. And I've found it pretty easy to get quite a bit of anime/manga. The Toroonto area, for one. Chapters/Indigo/Coles has a good sized collection of manga. Just because one article showed complete ignorance (and it was more so the police forces and those advocating the protection of children from sexual exploitation) does not mean that the entire Canadian government has this view of anime. If they did, stations like YTV and Teletoon wouldn't be airing anime at all. One article like this isn't enough for anyone to jump to negative conclusions about Canada. |
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Solara-chan
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I really don't see that happening anytime soon (or at all for that matter...) Our police are not stupid they aren't gonna jump the gun and ban anime and such just because of one article... |
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Solara-chan
Posts: 7 Location: Vancouver, Canada |
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Are you saying that legalizing homosexual marriages is a bad thing?? because I don't think there is anything wrong with is. I know Quebec needs to shut up about wanting to separate and we don't have legal weed here. |
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Jerseymilk
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But most Canadian govenment workers are like slow high school students.
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Cowpunk
Posts: 168 Location: Oakland - near the Newtype Lab |
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You know poorly written works like this could be an oportunity to publicise what anime actually is. Perhaps a few letters to the press are in order, in fact such could have a greater impact on getting the page corrected than just letters to the agency involved.
I've saved the page as a PDF for later reference and will be checking it on occasion for edits. |
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HitokiriShadow
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Nothing like that has happened. During the 2004 election, one ad used an altered picture of Wolfwood (from Trigun) to refer to the Yakuza. Anime was never mentioned and it only appeared for a few seconds. |
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UltimaShadowfax
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I really couldn't care less about what the point of the article was. You make your point null when you include incorrect information. Besides that, what happens when some Canadian kid says "I like anime" and their parents freak out because of the article. That's not fair to anime or the kid himself. Being an anime fan, I wouldn't be as mad if this weren't about anime, but I would consider this agency less credible due to inaccurate information. |
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