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GATSU
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Hitokiri: I do think enforcement of age of consent laws is a tad draconian.
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cyrax777
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more like man violates terms of release for possion of child porn btw some happened to be drawings.
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VORTIA
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I for one find the above to be very disturbing. It is an infringement on freedom of expression and is extrordinarily interpretable based on the individual. I'm mildly Lolicon and I think it's ludicrous to attempt to wrap myself and others like me up in a law with such individuals as the one who has brought this story to the fore. I'm all for protecting children, but doujinshi? |
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fighterholic
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Very very bad thing to be in possesion of that kind of material. Although it didn't look like he was in possession of anime that had child porn in it. Now all this guy can do is wait 20 years.....
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perfectblue
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Having the name "Anime" banded about in this article is stupid and misleading, and is another tool that neo-cons an prudes can use to brand ALL anime as being perverted and to convince the uninformed that it is so.
Somebody should sit the writter of this article down and get him to replace "Anime" and "Japanese Animation" with the word Hentai. which is a fringe area of a much larger scene. We've already had that debarcle in Canada where that child protection agency used "Anime" instead of "Hentai" in a fact sheet and pretty much told parents that everything from Pokemon to Sailor Moon was hard core porn, we don't need this convincing parents that all JApanese animation is bad. |
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MorwenLaicoriel
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I really don't see what you guys are whining about.
The guy was in possession of child porn. He was already convicted for crimes like that before. Of COURSE he deserves to go to jail. Also, I don't agree that lolicon is completely harmless. I don't know if it's quite as bad as the real thing, but it must be at least similar, if this guy would download it as well as real pictures. It certainly wasn't HELPING him overcome his 'problem', and I wouldn't be surprised if it just made him crave the real stuff even more. |
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Ohoni
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Why not? Pedophilia (at the very least sex with minors) has been a common part of human culture for the vast majority of human history. It's only a recent invention to our culture to consider it wrong.It might stay that way forever, it might no, who knows? I think it's much less likely to stick around when people try to dilute it to reflect their own personal tastes such as by grouping actual child pornography with pornography in general).
Of course he does, but not for the possession of hentai. The problem arises when someone IS charged for posessing nothing more than hentai, and this case is used as precedent.
I bet he probably also had some web comics, or picture of kittens with funny phrases, or something like that too. Just because a pedophile downloads kiddie porn doesn't mean that anything else he downloads is equally as bad just by association.
But on the other hand, he was only arrested for possession of porn, as opposed to rape or murder. It's quite possible (withoutknowing the details of the case) that this material kept him lucid enough that he didn't feel the need to take his innate perversions to the next level, and for that we can all be grateful. |
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Cowpunk
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I would expect this to be done with American erotic comics like some of R. Crumb's work first. Then again given the mention of anime in the DOJ press releases it may be applied to any of several US releases. Simply stating on the box that the characters are over 18 and upping the age/level of school in the story probably would not hold up over the testimony of a Japanese fluent witness. At least they did not succeeed in applying the regular kiddie pron standards to animation and drawings, that would have made any nudity of a minor illegal. Just think getting busted for owning Ranma 1/2 or My Neighbor Totoro. |
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hikaru004
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Because comparing what is a crime in modern standards to modern civil rights issues just dilutes the civil rights issues and demonstrates insensitivity to these issues. Medical examination progress has nothing to do with it either since the approach to completing a medical examinations does not involve sexuality. Either way it is an apples and oranges comparison. The guy got what he deserved. |
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Ongaku_no_tenshi
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That would truely be an awfull development. Actually, it wouldn't just be Ranma 1/2 and My Neighbor Totoro. If that were the case, pretty much over 65 to 70 percent of anime would become objectionable. And that would be, as far as anime in general is concerned, totally undeserved and wrong. |
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Tempest
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Odly enough, while Canada's laws regarding virtual child porn are much more draconian, none of the people in those cases (the first couple of examples that is) would have been guilty of breaking Canadian laws. Canadian law allows concensual minors (ages 14+ - see appropriate restrictions on consent of minors in Canada) to be photographed in "intimate" manners provided those phtographs are for personal use only and are not sold, distributed or displayed to the public. I find it interesting how two countries can be each more lenient than the other on different, but very similar, aspects of the same topic. -t |
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Eos
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As other posters have mentioned it before, I believe the prosecutors used the hentai pictures just to make his charges more severe. He wasn't hauled off to court just for anime.
I see. Your arguement is entirely valedated because you can quote some guy's blog on a website. I can quote a website as well... Thesaurus.com |
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Proman
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Stop jumping to conclusions! 20 years of prison is the last thing this man needs. Psychiatric and other types of treatment would be a lot more beneficial. I seriously think that the society needs to understand what drove this man to look at those images before it punishes but leaves him with desires. Murderers get one half the time this man did. I'm not trying to say that what he did wasn't bad. I'm just trying to figure out a more rational way. |
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Lothar
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It's time to declare this thread a trainwreck. No one's making arguments that we haven't heard before, those that are being made are demogogic and emotionally stupifying at best, and little new information is being communicated. The anti-hentai crowd will go on feeling smug and self-righteous, and those who call the sentence an injustice aren't doing one thing to shorten this guy's jail stay by a millisecond. All in all, useless wanking.
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fxg97873
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I think I'm going to go ahead and write a letter to the ACLU and the Free Speech Coalition (probably donate some money at their websites while I'm at it)
Obviously, I'm not interested in helping the guy out but I'm interested in trying to help the Anime, Manga and Doujinshi community. Mainly I'm interested if they could somehow look at the 'incriminating' cartoons/anime/drawings from the case to judge their origin (original works, commerical anime?). Free Speech Coalition P.O. Box 10480 Canoga Park, CA 91309 Michelle Freridge Executive Director [email protected] American Civil Liberties Union of Virginia 530 East Main Street, Suite 310 Richmond, VA 23219 E-mail: [email protected] Last edited by fxg97873 on Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:08 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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