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dan9999
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Ghibli used digital paint for the first time in Princess Mononoke, for some parts due to deadlines. Digital paint and ink was used since then and until Ponyo, CG as well, in Howls for example.
WRONG!!! walw6pK4Alo: Miyazaki went back to TRUE TRADITIONAL ANIMATION with Ponyo, I saw with my own eyes the cels and mountains of drawings in the Ghibli Museum my last time I was in Japan:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayao_Miyazaki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponyo You still dont believe me Ghibli has been using traditional animation since Ponyo, including traditional ink and paint on cels?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_animation This is just a testament of how skilled Ghibli is if you believed Gjibli has been using digital paint and ink since 10 years ago, and in fact that is wrong too, digital paint was used since 1997 and digital animation properly in the 2000s (combined with some hand drawn as well) Lake I said, I saw with my own eyes the titanic task it represented to produce ponyo in the traditional animation process, I am not surprised Miyazaki is retiring from such monumental task, I mean look how you think its digital!! And it is not, not since ponyo, imagine the work needed to make it looks so awesome!! Dunno why always find people on this site that are confused when it comes to traditional animation or more commonly referred to as hand drawn animation... I am not confused about what hand drawn means walw6pK4Alo, hand drawn animation refers to the full traditional animation process including ink and painting on cels, what you and many seem to be confused about is that you are taking the term "hand drawn" literally. Context is important, when you refer to the animation process you cannot understand "hand drawn" in the literal sense, is a whole process, you cannot pretend that because artists hand draw some stuff here and there its is hand drawn animation it is not. Last edited by dan9999 on Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:19 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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walw6pK4Alo
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Poppy Hill and Arrietty were definitely digital paint, so I don't know where they got that line from. Everything still uses paper, you're the only confused on that since you throw these little shitfits in every thread.
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dan9999
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Such short reply in front a facts. Be humble when you got your facts wrong and sources were given to you, where they got them from? Check the sources, Miyazaki himself said it from his own mouth, and those statements are well cited via wikipedia if you are in doubt. Ponyo is done fully in the traditional animation process, this is fact. Arriety and Kokuriko-zaka Kara are hand drawn mostly, this is fact, but I cannot discard some digital here and there since they are not Miyazaki´s films, I mean, you thought Ponyo was fully digital..Ghibli's digital department disappeared before Ponyo, this is also a fact. At the least you can be sure Miyazaki latest film features hand drawn animation entirely, same as Ponyo. Like I said, I worry that Ghibli movies from now on go fully digital since it was Miyazaki that still wanted traditional animated films done (including ink and paint on cels) and partially approved to digital animation before going back to hand drawn entirely for his films at the least. |
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Wooga
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There is no way Ponyo was made with traditional hand-painted cels. It would only have black inked outlines and it wouldn't have the transparency effects in the water scenes. Just like the Lion King, this movie was colored digitally.
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walw6pK4Alo
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Dan999, do you even know what digital ink is? I honestly don't think you do. Like you honestly and truly don't know the processes involved. You don't seem the grasp the concept that more or less all anime still rely on animators drawing on physical pieces of paper with physical pencils, and those then get scanned into a computer, where digital ink is then applied and the scenes are composed. The other process involved hand-inking on pieces of transparent cels and then photographing them in layers in a lightbox for transference to film. Digital ink does not refer to people sitting at a computer and drawing it entirely in an art program from scratch, paper and pencils are still involved. You seem bewildered by this concept.
Fully digital would imply no physical component of production, like a CG film or flash. Redline, everyone's beloved seven years hand drawn movie, was still digitally inked. The hype over the animation was kind of dumb, it just meant no vehicles were done with computer graphics. |
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FLCLGainax
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It would be ridiculous for a modern animation studio to abandon its digital facilities and return to using purely analog methods.
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