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jmays
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A court case over what constitutes "serious artistic value" would be ugly and embarrassing to the legal system. But with the new law, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see that path followed eventually. -Sigh- -Jonathan |
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Coral Skipper
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I agree with you, but if I was going to try to get the law overturned that would be the point to focus on. I would argue that everyone has their own definitian of what has artistic value. Manga has artistic value for its wonderful artwork, and sometimes writing, in my opinion. You may disagree, but again my point is that artistic value is a subjective term. |
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Animetallica
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At least you guys don't live in Arkansas like me.
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Dan42
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It seems to me the definition of "harmful to minors" is an AND combination of the 3 points, nor OR. In other words, in order to be considered harmful to minors, something has to exhibit A and B and C. At least, the wording makes it seems that way to me. If you see it that way, then item C is a way to exclude from the law stuff that is controversial but artistic. I still think that law is an affront to free expression, but it may not be as bad as it first appears. |
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sunlord
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Say does this apply to the bible to cuase im pretty sure it violates this law... I'd have to read the law in more detail to if they made religous things legal
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Case
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What, exactly, constitutes an average person 18 years of age or older? How is a person even supposed to know if they fall into that group or not? Subjective control of censorship by government is facism. I think that really goes without saying. I say, if they can't answer that second question, the law is too vague and has no place in our justice system. |
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Rogue_Darkholme
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Most adults in America has got to be the biggest hypocrites in the world. Bastards. -.-
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Delthayre
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Hyberbole and bloviating aside, so far as I can tell this law is simply to vague and broad, thus it would seem to be a bad law.
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Minky
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I for one do not read manga because of the cursing violence and nudity... I read it for the overall story and the beautifully drawn artwork. I mean even SAILOR MOON one of the most innocent and cute mangas! Seriousley so there are lesbians in it, there is way worse on the tv! Bastards of Arkansas... better not get to Michigan
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Lucca
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Not to bring a new topic into the light of this, but truly, this is another form of the government trying to do a parent's job. Yes, I am a minor, yes, under the definition of the law I am my parents property. In other words, anything I do, my parents can be punished for it, because I am their property.
Then you have the abounding number of bad parents. I think it's safe to say that out of every ten families in America, seven are dysfunctional. This law, in my opinion, is just another way of the Government trying to play "Parent: Mommy and Daddy". It is vauge, and with the contraversy, will be gone before the month ends. But, someone has to set boundries for children. The problem is: Everyone's boundries are different, and this is what the gov't. fails to realise. So they took the best route they could: The vauge one. As said by everyone else: This law is going to be voided. There's no way such a thing as this could work. Too risky. |
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Amused Observer
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You are right about this. The law is too vague to be enforced. |
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Yang
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Well, there's still the internet!
BWHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!! ah, nothing can stop the might of ebay. |
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Coral Skipper
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One other thing about the law is that it only applies to comics and books, which is B.S. We all know that the stuff on T.V is worse then "harmful" books, and yet the law doesn't cover that. If you are going to be a facist censor don't allow some things to avoid getting censor. It doesn't work.
I hate the law, more then any other so called dumb laws because aside from keeping porn from minors no form of censorship is practical. I hope this law will get appealed to the federal Supreme Court so that no other laws like it will be passed, based on a ruling against that law. |
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Case
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With all due respect to the lawmakers of Arkansas state (however thoughtless they may be), this law is an attempt to use a specific course of action to apply a specific type of censorship - materials in bookstores must be moved or covered up. Television and movie censorship laws would have to follow a completely different course of action than books and magazines, so... short of creating some kind of massive "censorship guide" law that lumps together all "decency" legislation in a given jurisdiction (...which will probably never exist, because public opinion of such a thing would almost definitely be much worse than public opinion of assorted laws mixed in and among all other passed laws...), it wouldn't make sense to lump things together like that. It would probably be considered a "rider", and come up against stiff resistance for that reason alone. |
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Ribby
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Mr. Tierney has a valid point, but the following statement:
is total crap, according to Snopes.com (see article: http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/finland.htm) The reason why it's "hard to conceive of by American standards" is because it's not true. Mr. Tierney, as the owner of a comic book store (which has most likely sold thousands of copies of Donald Duck books) should have done his research a little better and not have made his point with a completely bogus explanation. |
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