Forum - View topicNEWS: Gurren Lagann Staff Streams Kill La Kill Anime's 3-Minute Promo
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Surrender Artist
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Oh, this looks badass and fun. I could do without the 'gentleman's club' transformation sequence and get-up, but if it has enough else going for it, I can give that a pass. Kill La Kill looks really enthusiastic.
I really like the art that we' seen so far. It's distinctive and has a very dynamic, cinematic look. (I can't really discern, but it feels like there's some sort of filter being use) I am a little worried that because this is a television production, they'll be fighting their budget hard and lose a little too often. There were what looked like a few tricks and fudges in the trailer. I hope that they have just enough money are are just judicious enough to give this series the moments of visual spectacle and intensity that its ambitions mandate.
Pitch for a new Syfy reality series: RyanSaotome tours great museums of art, complains that the woman grieving over a dead child isn't cute and that it tries too hard to look different; dismisses the Mona Lisa as weird looking and unattractive.
It seems like some people want to treat Japanese otaku like the God of the old testament whom for the sake of our immortal we should all grovel and prostrate ourselves before. Sometimes it seems that to some people, 'Japanese otaku' themselves are somehow the point and whatever anime we like or watch is just a means to show fidelity to them. It frustrates me when I read people denigrating the west as irrelevant, because it's goddamned relevant to me. It's where my 'fandom' exists and where I interact with other who share my interests. I see that it hardly matters to the Japanese market, but seeing as that's the case, why should we pretend or put on airs about how much the Japanese market matters to us. That's not being a fan, it's trying to be in a codependent relationship. I'm not trying to claim that the Japanese market is irrelevant or should be ignored. Given that it's where anime comes from, it certainly merit having an eye kept on it and it can be very interesting. But, given that there's no material connection between the opinions of the western market on the outcomes in the Japanese one, I can't see why it should be particularly influential or controlling upon us. Maybe nobody in Japan cares about Kill La Kill, but people in the fan community that I interact and am interested do and since I can't do anything about Japan, it doesn't really matter. What will come will come. By the same token, to throw a bone to the opposition, it's silly to heap so much abuse and blame upon otaku. Knowing about and analyzing their attitudes in good faith can be interesting, but working up a heady, frothy brew of disdain and judgement for them does nothing that matters and no good for anybody. Besides that, it's gotten tiresome and isn't very interesting.
I recommend against putting much faith in that. Biglobe's polls seem to have as much predictive power as that Unskewed Polls guy. Their methodology seems pretty dubious. (I'd rather see a poll that has at least some precautions against multiple voting and used some sort of ordinal ballot) Last edited by Surrender Artist on Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:57 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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TsunaReborn!
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Surely disc sales would only tell part of the story. As many watch in streaming sites like Crunchyroll or download illegally and never buy the discs.
Even if someone buys the box set they may not have seen the series before. I do this with 90% of anime I buy and I must say there have been a few I have purchased which I have not finished or not enjoyed. I would not be the only person to have down this. So in my mind the only real way of finding out how popular something is, is to ask every person who has seen the series whether or not they liked the series/show. But I am not saying sales figures are not meaningful but that would really only show how profitable and successful in sales figures it was. |
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Fencedude5609
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Really would be nice if people wouldn't just use "otaku" to mean "fans of things I don't like who screw things up because they aren't liking the things I like"
All otaku do not have the same taste. To try and claim that a show obviously aimed at the general otaku demographic like Kill la Kill isn't an otaku show is actually completely ridiculous. |
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danilo07
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I must mention that examples in which a show is very famous in west,but not in Japan are very rare.Even generic crapola like Infinite Stratos is relatively popular here.
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Guile
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From my own perception of this issue, this has been a recurring problem in the western fandom. There is this narrow-minded view that otaku anime is one of a very specific, esoteric type of anime genre, rather than a number of shows across an entire genre with otaku just being the target demographic. One can also see this mistake when people assume the term 'shonen' refers specifically to action shows rather than just any anime that is aimed at young boys, and can also include comedy, romance, and other genres. I suspect that misconception stems from the issue that American audiences have little exposure to shonen series outside the action genre, and titles like Kochikame, Himedol, Haikyu!!, Sket Dance, and Gintama go unheard of in America. Anime is divided into a few very clear demographic categories in Japan. Shows aimed at mainstream children such, shows aimed at otaku, and shows aimed at fujoshi. One could combine the otaku and fujoshi shows into the general late night adult oriented category but for the sake of this argument we can separate them to make things a bit clearer. I am unsure how people can look at Kill la Kill and not recognize when it is targeting otaku; is is not aimed at children and it it will air late at night and be reliant on disk sales for it's revenue. It is no different than other late night anime out there. Now, whether it will sell or not is another matter entirely, however whether it's met with success or failure does not change the issue Kill la Kill is a show aimed at the hardcore otaku audience and trying to disassociate it with them is folly. Failure or success to appeal to a target market does no change that target market. I am curious how these individuals feel about shows aimed at the mainstream audience but have very large peripheral markets in otaku and fujoshi communities. The upcoming Magi anime is fairly popular among older otaku audiences, as are the recurring franchises Gintama and Pretty Cure. Fujoshi have all but co-opted a number of children's shows for their own enjoyment as well. I think these examples showcase that the otaku market in Japan does not have such one-track minds as some people in this thread would like to think, and any attempt at pigeonholing otaku will be met with resistance and objection from those who have a better understanding of the market and audience behavior in Japan. Like shonen, shojo, josei, and seinen, we must always keep in mind otaku is not a genre, it is a demographic and only tells us who the show is aimed at, not what it's content will be. |
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Sariachan
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*ignores the rants*
To put it simply, I can't wait to see this anime. 
I love the anthropomorphic school uniform, by the way. Taking such an iconic element and turning it into an actual character is a brilliant idea, in my opinion. |
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darkchibi07
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Does anyone have this crazy feeling that Mako might end up being the TRUE final boss? Beware the cute ones!
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Sariachan
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Mako is the moe-looking girl, right? |
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uguu
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You're just mad that the designs are actually very varied. Mako and her family have fantastic designs; they're clearly meant to look like 70s anime characters and have a "gag anime family" dynamic going for them, but they still work within the context of the show. Mako's face is very 70s: http://www.mangauk.com/gallery/albums/album-19/lg/panda4.jpeg http://www.animated-divots.net/images/shindokonjo.jpg and it's not 'flat' at all, it's quite solidly drawn. I also find it funny how people instantly associate 'old-looking' with '80s' and '90s' when Imaishi & co love 70s anime so much. Also your example of a good GL illustration is shitty fan art. Why not post something by Yoh Yoshinari or someone cool like that? |
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Myaow
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Dokonjo Gaeru!!! Aw! I think someone in another thread was saying that the talking serafuku in Kill La Kill was like a really hardcore, violent Pyonkichi, which is both hilarious and awesome.
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uguu
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It's clearly the primary influence for the whole 'living clothes' thing. It's one of Imaishi's favorite shows. |
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