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Kuririn
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It did here. Many fans already had a pirated version way before the movie was in the stores and those same people later on bough the official version. It got many people interested even non gamers. |
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Keonyn
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I actually disagree on Square's art, while there is no denying they do model it quite effectively, they also don't have much in the way of diversity to it. They rely on too many similar elements and masterfully render subpar or uninteresting scenery. I can honestly say there wasn't a single scene in Advent Children that contained scenic art that I actually felt like applauding. I could model a brick wall with perfect detail, but in the end it's still just a brick wall.
While I understand some people are tired of "nitpickers", that road does go both ways, we're equally tired of people who don't accept or are closed minded to the faults of something just because they liked it. Even I gave credit to the movie in that I bought it for the action and nostalgia aspect, and while I don't consider it great or even that good, it does have its place and was worth the $15 it cost me. There's no disputing the visual quality of the models, as far as still frames go you could practically frame most as a work of art if the content were worthy of the praise, but the problem comes with movement and the actual animation of this art which just really leaves a lot to be desired. |
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
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Where is "here"? And why do you think the only people buying this DVD are "fans"? |
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Lyrai
Posts: 173 Location: Potatoes (Idaho) |
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I bought FF7:AC the day it came out. Only thing I downloaded related to it was the Last Order OAV since I heard that we weren't getting it.
FF7:AC is, to me, the most beautiful piece of shitty writing I have ever seen. I didn't expect a whole hell of a lot of plot. I mean, really. Most of the fanbase just wanted to see fighting. And the movie succeeded on it. It gave us beautful fight scenes, using 3rd-grade storytelling to explain why they were fighting. And am I the only one who laughed hysterically at Cait Sith's Scottish accent when he went "THAT'S ME BOY, CLOUD!" I mean, it's a nice touch from the dubbing companies, given that he's based off a celtic legend, but still. It was just this nice moment blindsided by a cat whose scottish accent I was not expecting. |
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Kuririn
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uppss my bad i mean here as in Puerto Rico. I think the only people who would buy this dvd here are the fans simply because outside of videogamers not many people know what FF is or they just don't care.
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halochief_90
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Another AC news story/review/thread and another million people who still can't stop complaining about the movie’s story. I was going to sit this one out, but I realized that despite how much I’m tired of hearing about this movie; it is still the most interesting subject, currently on this site. Again, I got to back up the storyline.
You can condemn Square-Enix all you want for making sure “you guys” couldn't understand the story, but I understood it just fine. For instance, people complain why they don't know why Kadaj, Loz and Yazoo are the only clones to come out of the Northern Crater, but they aren't clones, they are remnants! Some people don't seem to understand that. They are remnants of Sephiroth’s body (who died in the cave earlier), which also explains why Kadaj turned into him! This is the same that goes for the FFVII game haters; they hate the game because they don't understand it. One person was saying that FFVII's story sucked, because Cloud lost his memory as an excuse for not knowing what happened in Nibelhiem. But he didn't lose his memory he made up the "world" himself. Believe it or not, there are basically just as many FFVII haters, as there are of AC haters. I really shouldn't be surprised by the criticism. |
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Nagisa
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So...why does this happen? You can explain that it happens, but without a REASON BEHIND IT, it's still random nonsense. Three guys crawl out of someone's apparent corpse for no reason and one of them turns into said former guy from eating some weird head jelly. Great. We've established that. Now...why? For what purpose, to what end, and what the hell? A good story would at least make some motion towards explaining it. Advent Children doesn't even try, and you seem not to understand that's where the problem comes from. Without a rhyme or reason it's still just random crap happening nonsensically. |
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halochief_90
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Kuririn
Posts: 24 Location: PR |
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Of course this is better than Finding nemo or other cg movies.
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Zac
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There's no "of course" about it. Finding Nemo had a competent storyline that had heart and soul and appealed to a much wider audience. FF7 AC has a bunch of pretty boys spewing nonsense and fighting eachother for 2 hours. It's completely unsophisticated fanboy wankery. Fun, but that's it. Not a classic, not even really memorable. Apples and oranges anyway; FF7 was doing something very specific and appealing to an exact audience. Its goals were completely different from any typical CG family film. |
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Steventheeunuch
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This is not Nomura being smart or dedicated, this is him being a [expletive] lazy filmmaker. A director or what not doesn't intentionally leave things out of a story simply for fans to 'make up for themselves'. Sure, you can leave room for interpretation, such as symbolism or what not, but not actual plot points and character development. |
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Sylex
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Square Enix doesn't have the creative talent to make family CG films. Most of its independent productions, which are games, are aimed at teen and perhaps adult audiences anyways, whereas Pixar has much more experience in this area. I question SE's ability to make any film appealing to a wider audience after Final Fantasy the Spirits Within, sporting excellent animation and a cast of big-name actors as voices, still didn't get the same kind of popularity as Finding Nemo. In terms of raw materials, Spirits Within differed little from Finding Nemo in terms of budget, voice talent, animation quality, and sound, yet the two movies contrasted greatly at the box office and at the pentips of critics. SE had to appeal its die-hard FF7 fanbase, its largest die-hard FF fanbase, for this next film in order to promise this measure of success. The movie also had the dual-purpose of showcasing the kind of action animation that SE will attempt to reproduce on the advanced hardware of the Playstation 3 for its upcoming Final Fantasy XIII.
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Nagisa
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Not to mention animation that...actually did involve some significant innovations in the field of computer animation. Something fanboys love to insist Advent Children carries (though...yeah...not by a longshot). Gotta love statements like Kuririn's. Nothing but blind fanboy ravings based on ignorance of an unimaginable scale. 
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halochief_90
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Anyway, I'm glad none of you turned into pissed off forum trolls after my Finding Nemo comment. |
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Nagisa
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Dude, Advent Children was originally just going to be a disconnected collection of vignettes that the producers later decided to connect somehow. That's about all the effort they put into the "story." It was a lazy attempt that originally wasn't even going to be done. Period.
How? I mean, yeah, "opinions," whoopdeedoo, but how in good conscious can you say that Advent Children is better than even Pixar's weakest efforts?
Because the guy who produced just about every Final Fantasy game to date is a "stupid American," right? Because Hironobu Sakaguchi, who directed, co-wrote, and produced The Spirits Within, as well as produced damn near every Final Fantasy game to date—created the damn franchise, at that—is just some "stupid American." Next time know what you're talking about before making some dimwitted statement, alright? |
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