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NEWS: Miyazaki Invited to Join Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences


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Dargonxtc



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:07 pm Reply with quote
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Was it homophobia, or the fact it was mediocre.


There were people in AMPAS who were saying they didn't want to see a movie which involved gay sex.
Well I didn't know that, if true, I guess that is a bit homophobic. I saw the movie and was of like, meh. I was surprised it was nominated honestly. Of course I never saw Crash so I really can't compare those two.
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I agree it was a huge financial success, but I thought the academy didn't look at such things.

*cough* Titanic + Return of the King *cough*
I'll give you Titanic, but not Return of the King. Besides that was really for all three of the movies. Plus it was actually good. Or does being a fan of the novels before the big-time Hollywood adaptation make me biased. Smile
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Carl Horn



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:51 pm Reply with quote
I see he was invited as an animator and not as a director. I can understand "animator" as a category within filmmaking, just as those categories the Academy has for cinematographers, costume designers, visual effects artists, and so forth. And, considered only by his skill as an animator, Miyazaki indoubtedly ranks among the world's greatest. But doesn't he also deserve a ranking among the world's great directors? To Disney's credit, they have always thought so: I remember they actively pushed (through a front-page ad on The Hollywood Reporter) for a Best Director nomination for SPIRITED AWAY, not only a Best Animated Feature. But it does seem to the Academy, animation is treated more Inglewood than Hollywood.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:06 pm Reply with quote
Carl: Disney didn't really care about Miyazaki. They just wanted a monopoly on any animation which could pose a threat to titles like Aladdin 2. (Ironically, Miyazaki himself claimed he'd never work with them, but I guess money talks.) The only reason they backed Spirited Away was they wanted to have the most nominations present, so that Lilo and Stitch or Treasure Planet would have a better chance to win. If they cared about Spirited Away, they wouldn't reduce the number of theaters in which it was playing, in spite of the fact that it was making more than the latest Pokemon movie, not to mention Mononoke. If Spirited Away hadn't won that year, titles like Laputa would probably be buried indefinitely like the Asian films from Harvey's Miramaxe.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:27 pm Reply with quote
Dargonxtc wrote:
Well I didn't know that, if true, I guess that is a bit homophobic. I saw the movie and was of like, meh. I was surprised it was nominated honestly. Of course I never saw Crash so I really can't compare those two.


You shouldn't be surprised that Brokeback Mountain was nominated for Best Picture. It won most of the precursors before the OSCARS. It won Golden Globe best picture(drama), the BAFTA best picture, Independent, Producers, Directors and Writers Guild awards. No movie in history has won all those and LOST the best picture award. No matter how you see this, BBM lost best picture to Crash due to homophobia.
No other movie last year could match up to Brokeback's success and critical praise.
On the contrary, millions of people were surprised it did not win the oscars. I was shocked, seriously.


Like "Citizen Kane" and "Color Purple," "Brokeback" was too good to win an Oscar. Academy members are notorious for playing it safe and overlooking the truly groundbreaking films. But the rest of the world stood up and took notice. Brokeback won practically every other major award it was nominated for. It's simply one of the most important films of the past twenty-five years.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:39 pm Reply with quote
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It won most of the precursors before the OSCARS.

No other movie last year could match up to Brokeback's success and critical praise.
Well winning everything else is not proof that it should win an OSCAR. And again I didn't see Crash so I can't compare, but when I left BBM I didn't feel like I left a Best Picture type film, sorry, just my opinion.

And I honestly didn't know members said they didn't see it just because it's about gay cowboys, like GATSU said. So when you say it didn't win because of homophobia, I have to agree with you there. So I agree it was jinxed because of the homosexual content, I just disagree it should have won, IMO. I am not trying to flame the movie or anything, I just didn't think "OMG best F&$%king move ever !!!!!1111!!!!!".
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:45 pm Reply with quote
BTW, my predictions for this year's animated film nominees are Ice Age 2, Scanner Darkly, and Cars, Over the Hedge and Hoodwinked.
I'm betting Ice Age 2 as the winner, with the dark horse being Scanner Darkly.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:30 am Reply with quote
Doesn't surprise me. He didn't even show up to the Oscars when Spirited Away won for Best Animated Feature.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:57 am Reply with quote
God, what a curmudgeon.

And Munich may not be Spielberg's best film, but it's still head and shoulders better than Crash in that it has well-developed, multi-dimensional characters. Crash wasn't bad, but it was far too shallow and melodramatic to be great.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:31 am Reply with quote
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And Munich may not be Spielberg's best film, but it's still head and shoulders better than Crash in that it has well-developed, multi-dimensional characters. Crash wasn't bad, but it was far too shallow and melodramatic to be great.


There one scene in particular in that film that for me ruined the movies chances to win the best picture. Of course that is the sex scene which when I saw with a film class many people were laughing at the scene. I couldn't help but feel bad during that part, I understand why that scene is important but the direction at that moment told me it wasn't going to be the best picture.

"He was actually requested three times," Suzuki said. "He does not seem to be glad with it because [he thinks] it seems to mean his retirement is near. Miyazaki's thought, 'I want to be as active as possible,' seems to be strong."

I just thought Miyazaki was saying how he was soon to be retiring...... I guess not, anyways I am tad bit surprise that he's rejected the academy now 3 times.....
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:54 am Reply with quote
I don't really understand Miyasaki's reasoning, the whole retirement thing, but it seems to me that he dosen't want to take the time to watch other peoples work. It's one thing when you do something for enjoyment and quite another when you have to. I also don't get the impression that he cares about the academy and Oscar stuff anyway, he just wants to make films.

I certainly hope A Scanner Darkly gets nominated and wins. This is the kind of animated film I want to see get some recognition. I want to see animators who are pushing animation forward into new directions get some love. Childrens and general audience films are fine but to me that's such a narrow focus.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:09 pm Reply with quote
I think Miyazaki just doesn't want Ghibli to turn into a prominent studio which suddenly churns out nothing but generic anime like Giant Hacks. He probably should let go at his age, but it is his life, and as long as he feels capable of tackling future projects, he'll continue working there. Though since his son's taking over on the new film, he'll obviously be relinquishing any direct roles at the company in the future.

Beruda: Scanner Darkly should get nominated, but Ice Age 2 is gonna win.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:11 pm Reply with quote
I haven't seen Crash either, but yeah, I really don't think BBM was really worth all the hype. It was good, but I've seen many movies that I enjoyed more.

As for Miyazaki, I really don't know why being a member of the Academy would be a sign of retirement.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:06 pm Reply with quote
A Scanner Darkly isn't actually animated, but painted-over film. The same technique was used for "A Waking Life" by the same director (Richard Linklater)...which is also good.

And as for the topic, I think Miyazaki just doesn't want to be a judge.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 2:28 pm Reply with quote
GATSU:
Since no one does, at least lately, I am going to have to agree with your latest comments in this thread.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 3:22 pm Reply with quote
[quote="AyumiHamasaki"

Like "Citizen Kane" and "Color Purple," "Brokeback" was too good to win an Oscar. Academy members are notorious for playing it safe and overlooking the truly groundbreaking films. But the rest of the world stood up and took notice. Brokeback won practically every other major award it was nominated for. It's simply one of the most important films of the past twenty-five years.[/quote]So, where's that Best Picture award for Passion Of The Christ if the Academy only likes to play it safe with their votes? I don't think Brokeback Mountain lost the Best Picture award because of homophobia; I think it was because it was truly a mediocre film. I myself am gay and I thought it was one of the most boring movies I had ever seen. I swear I almost fell asleep during the first 30 minutes of it. The only thing about the movie that was half-way interesting were the sex scenes which I thought looked so obviously fake. On the flip side, you could also say that the only reason why Brokeback Mountain was successful enough as it is was because of the homosexual content. If Brokeback Mountain was a film about a heterosexual romance, I seriously doubt the film would've even made it pass the production stages because it was just so mediocre and uninteresting. This makes one wonder if Brokeback Mountain was about two lesbian cowgirls instead would the movie's success be any different.

As for Miyazaki-san declining the invitation to join the Academy, I must say I'm not really surprised. Like most professionals in the anime business, Miyazaki-san seems to be more of the private type who prefers to avoid any uneccessary spotlight. He didn't even come to accept his Oscar for Spirited Away, but I must say I'm surprised by his reasoning. I don't see how joining the Academy suddenly equals being close to retirement. If joining the Academy awards means you're close to retirement, then Dakota Fanning must be retiring early for her age. I wonder if his reasoning is a Japanese cultural thing that I just can't understand because of our culture's differences. But wasn't he supposed to retire after Howl's Moving Castle anyway or am I misunderstanding something?
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