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Sunday Silence



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:28 am Reply with quote
Borders, please die already. I've heard one of the "saviour" ideas you had, and.......y'know, just die already.
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Sheleigha



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:53 am Reply with quote
Yeah that's right! Borders needs to die! We need more unemployed people out there!
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MaxSouth



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:04 am Reply with quote
Sheleigha wrote:
Yeah that's right! Borders needs to die! We need more unemployed people out there!


but is not lay offs is the whole point of capitalism about "effectiveness of economy"?..

do not you remember how Ronald Reagan always said that socialism (where there are no bankruptcies, layoffs, unempoyment, millionaires, billionaires) is really bad?..
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Penguin_Factory



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:27 am Reply with quote
The Borders that opened up here used to be my favourite book shop. It's sad to see them sink like this Sad
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loplop



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:23 am Reply with quote
Goodbye Borders, It hasn't happened quickly enough.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:48 am Reply with quote
Is/was Borders really so bad? I always liked having a chance to walk into a store with my 30/40/50% off coupon and leave with a manga in-hand, instead of waiting for it to show up in the mail. They were especially handy for smaller publishers I couldn't get $50 worth of product together for to get free shipping at TRSI... a few cents in tax beats 4 bucks shipping. OK, so sometimes it was a pain to get ahold of specific volumes. That's true of any B&M store (you shoulda seen be looking for Queen CDs a couple months ago- talk about a fruitless effort.) To be fair, I never once just asked about those volumes either... I bet they could've done something if I had.

I'd like to see these guys try to cut Borders just a little slack... I really think they did get too big for their own good, but I certainly don't want to lose them altogether. Also, I miss my local Borders, and it's only been gone a couple weeks. Crying or Very sad
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firedragon54738



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:23 am Reply with quote
Sigh if Borders closes where can I get my manga
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CAIMERAMAN



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:51 am Reply with quote
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Sigh if Borders closes where can I get my manga


You'll have to resort to buying manga online or find the remaining brick and mortar stores around that specialize in manga. It's a shame Borders is fading away, but this is a sad trend that has become a norm in the North American market. Tokyopop's gone with a host of other manga publishers and Dark Horse has been laying off its staff in given intervals.
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TsukasaElkKite



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:52 pm Reply with quote
firedragon54738 wrote:
Sigh if Borders closes where can I get my manga


Their store will still be online.
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Sunday Silence



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:09 pm Reply with quote
DuelLadyS wrote:
Is/was Borders really so bad?


Apparently, it's been going downhill since Borders eliminated Waldenbooks as a brand. 2002-2003-ish?

Inept management, unrealitic sales ideas, the loss of the "community" aspect, the whole "let homeless people and teenagers tear apart and ruin books cause their technically customers" mentality......
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kakoishii



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:32 pm Reply with quote
Sunday Silence wrote:
the whole "let homeless people and teenagers tear apart and ruin books cause their technically customers" mentality......

aww come on now, you make it sound like a zoo, but maybe I just never went into a borders quite that chaotic.
firedragon54738 wrote:
Sigh if Borders closes where can I get my manga

I feel like no one remembers that barnes and nobles is still around, it has a different feel than borders and I personally always loved borders more, but barnes and nobles sells manga too and as far as I know they're not in any financial trouble.
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doctordoom85



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:32 pm Reply with quote
kakoishii wrote:
I feel like no one remembers that barnes and nobles is still around, it has a different feel than borders and I personally always loved borders more, but barnes and nobles sells manga too and as far as I know they're not in any financial trouble.


I only have 1 B&N near me as opposed to the 3 (now 2) Borders + 1 Waldenbooks. Kind of obvious why I ignore it usually, but then with the Rewards program and the fact that all of those Borders have a much larger manga selection than B&N. If B&N wants my attention, then offer more manga and prices that can compete with Borders.
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Sunday Silence



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:19 am Reply with quote
kakoishii wrote:
Sunday Silence wrote:
the whole "let homeless people and teenagers tear apart and ruin books cause their technically customers" mentality......

aww come on now, you make it sound like a zoo, but maybe I just never went into a borders quite that chaotic.


http://iworkatborders.livejournal.com/807489.html

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Our store looks like Walmart now anyway. Embarrassing to walk past some of the crap on the floor. We cater to people with coupons in their hands and all the homeless within a mile of the store.

Come on in, have a seat, **** up our merchandise, **** on the floor in the bathroom. Take a bath while you are there, and just might get lucky and get a free drink. In fact spend the entire day. It's much too hot out there for you, and we really do enjoy the smell. If you get bored you can open a few of the puzzles, and oh here's a pen. Check out the large assortment of crossword books.
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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:11 am Reply with quote
Sunday Silence wrote:
DuelLadyS wrote:
Is/was Borders really so bad?


Apparently, it's been going downhill since Borders eliminated Waldenbooks as a brand. 2002-2003-ish?

Inept management, unrealitic sales ideas, the loss of the "community" aspect, the whole "let homeless people and teenagers tear apart and ruin books cause their technically customers" mentality......


... Over-reliance on manga....
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Sunday Silence



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:26 pm Reply with quote
enurtsol wrote:

... Over-reliance on manga....


Don't forget Twilight.

BTW, Borders got it's extension over the objections of the Creditors Committee:

http://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/bookselling/article/47507-borders-gets-extension-sales-process-gears-up.html

And this is a possible reason:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/01/us-borders-idUSTRE7507X620110601
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