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Kilgamayan
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On the grounds that morals and ethics are not universal, I would defend lolicon's right to exist if asked to. However I also defend my friends who are attacked simply because of their views on things, and this was one of those cases. For the record, I myself do not collect lolicon, as it does not appeal to me (always been a breast man, and as a /d/generate I can safely say that over 50% of the animated racks on my computer are larger then their owner's heads, but that's beside the point), but I recognize that others may find sexual pleasure in it while still others do not. It's not my place to judge.
You claim lolicon is CP. My government claims it isn't.
Hi. Last edited by Kilgamayan on Mon Jul 31, 2006 3:20 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Pop-Art Samurai
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I could point out the obvious possibility that your government is wrong. They could have even been right to say that under the Constitution they couldn't say that lolicon is CP. But that doesn't make the argument true, merely valid. Just saying. |
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PantsGoblin
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Fixed. Hi.
This made me laugh. |
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Kilgamayan
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Well, yeah. This kind of thing is assumed. I could've pointed out the obvious possibility that everyone who says lolicon is sick is wrong multiple times within this thread but it wouldn't have accomplished anything useful. Given the open-ended nature of the issue, I look at what I'm presented. The Supreme Court is made up of multiple individuals, all of which have attended many more years of school than the legal minimum and all of which probably took a more impartial approach to the issue than this other guy we have here. While either could conceivably be wrong, if I were a betting man, I would stake my money on the Supreme Court being right.
Oops, sorry. |
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ryujin jakka
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You claim lolicon is CP. My government claims it isn't. and who says that the goverment is right? They were right about Iraq? Huh I think not, what about Afganastan? or how about not dealing with Hurricane katrina? How about not dealing with Hezbollah. I see them being wrong alot! so, What is your point. Are you saying that if the goverment told you to go jump off a bridge you would because they told you to do it so it must be ok. Even the American goverment is still Facasim that you can vote for. so it is now 30 minutes later and it is still child porn! Curtis |
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PantsGoblin
Subscriber Encyclopedia Editor Posts: 2969 Location: L.A. |
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Of course, I see now... because you say it is, it must be. I apologize. |
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ANN_Bamboo
ANN Contributor
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Wooooaaaah there. Nobody should be beating off to animated 8-year-olds. Period. Why does it matter if they're real or animated? Masturbating about 8-year olds is SICK. For chrissakes, THEY'RE EIGHT. I don't care if they're just acrylics on celuloid, they are EIGHT. They are in grade school. What makes it okay to think, "Oh god, this little kid is so sexy. It's a good thing she's animated, or else I'd feel really dirty right now touching my penis." I'm all for people watching moe shows because they think they're cute or funny or whatever, but I'm not okay with people deriving sexual pleasure from kids, animated or not. Because in some part of your mind, your brain is telling you that these kids are 10, and you're countering yourself by saying it's okay. It's a fuzzy line in hentai when you've got girls who're supposedly 18 but look 8, but when you're knowingly beating off to grade school shows, you need to maybe reevaluate what's going on. (You, being the general "you.") I don't care if it's legal to watch animated kids have sex. The legality of it does not bother me. What does bother me is someone getting off on children having sex. When you have kids, ask yourself if you're okay with someone raping your kid. Or ask yourself if it's okay for some stranger in the park to leer at your kid's underpants and think about how awesome it would be to sniff them. If it's okay, then dude, that's just not cool. Last edited by ANN_Bamboo on Mon Jul 31, 2006 3:30 am; edited 2 times in total |
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Kilgamayan
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You'll note that the branch that made all the decisons regarding those issues was not the judicial branch.
In the bridge case, I'd be more likely to ignore them because being arrested sure beats killing myself. For the most part, I'm far more likely to listen to the government than to you because listening or not listening to the government can have a direct impact on my life (jail time and such) whereas I can ignore you or not as I please without any noticable consequences. Since the government does not think that lolicon is child porn, I will treat it as such. |
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ryujin jakka
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 Ok, This is pointless. Youll never change your stance and nither will I. When you are all burnning in hell, I will be laughing my ass off saying I told you so.
Have fun discussing this endless Rant, i have better thing's to do with my time! Curtis
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halochief_90
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I know I probably shouldn't be butting into this lollicon arguement, but I gotta say this: if you are a guy (and you consider yourself straight), but then some males in anime "turn you on" (and I'm not talking about the males that look like girls either!). That makes you a bisexual, just as lollicon makes you a pedophile.
Anyway that's just my two cents. I don't really have much say in this otherwise. |
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Kilgamayan
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This is a subjective stance, not an objective one. There is no universal moral or ethic saying beating off to animated 8-year-olds is sick.
The fact that morals and ethics aren't universal makes it okay in the cosmic sense. When it comes to the individualistic sense, however, your results may vary.
Let's take Mint from earlier. Speaking from my experiences knowing him, he is attending Clemson University and doing well academically, he has a solid social life with plenty of friends and hobbies, and he has a fantastic relationship with a girl that is only three years younger than him. Next to all that, I don't know if he'll want to re-evaluate where his life is going simply because lots of other people disagree with his artistic preferences.
You've wandered across the line from fantasy land into reality land. Both Mint and myself are vehemently against the sexual exploitation of real children. If I had a kid and someone raped them, then I'd hunt them down and get them prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. |
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Kilgamayan
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Ad hominem will not win you many arguments.
No. Didn't you say you had better things to do with your time? |
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ryujin jakka
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Just wandering, because you are defending Child Porn.  I thought I did but, Idiot's keep calling me back! and when idiot's call I answer. I am just that big of a dick. 
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MorwenLaicoriel
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But how does the simple fact that it's animated make it OK? Your fantasy is STILL using a young girl for your own pleasure--whether the picture is pen and ink or film doesn't change what it is. There's a big difference between 24--which, while made to excite using lots of violence, is not made for you to fantasize about killing--and lolicon, which exists to enhance those fantasies.
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jmays
ANN Associate Editor
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Are you saying you don't find it sick, or are you arguing in the abstract just for the sake of arguing? |
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