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Pleroma



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:41 am Reply with quote
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A pedophile is someone who finds sexual gratification in sexual depictions of children. I don't care if it's got tentacles dicks growing out of it, fur all over it's body and it goes 'NYAH NYAN BIG BROTHER I AM GODZILLA" it's still supposed to be a KID, even if the interpretation has been drastically altered for it's audience. Hence you're still a pedophile if you enjoy lolicon.


Huh? Dude dont you think that would person would actually be attracted to said tentacled mosters then? Cthulhuphile?

My point is that if you make it different enough, you can no longer equate it to what it may be supposed to represent. Or rather at this point it no longer represents a child, but a completely new creature.
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Steventheeunuch





PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:47 am Reply with quote
Pleroma wrote:

My point is that if you make it different enough, you can no longer equate it to what it may be supposed to represent. Or rather at this point it no longer represents a child, but a completely new creature.


You might not, because you're trying to hide the fact that you're a pedophile by sugar-coating it. But if it's meant to be a child, if the author meant it to BE a child and it resembles a child getting reamed, it is still pornography involving a child. I take it you do not need advanced deductive skills to figure out what that implies, right?

What creature would it represent? I doubt all Lolicon artists and enthusiasts use this line of thinking and I'm willing to call bullshit on it.
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Kamui4356



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:48 am Reply with quote
burzmali wrote:
Try the Protect Act of 2003, skip through until you get to part about Section 1466A. That makes loli (which fails a SLAPS test) illegal. SCOTUS has said you can't outright ban it without applying the SLAPS test.

That congress passed the law doesn't mean it's constitutional. That's for the courts to decide if and when the law is challanged. As far as I know, it has yet to be tested. I am unaware of anyone who has been arrested solely for the possesion of lolicon material. Perhaps an actual lolicon here wold agree to be a test case? You only risk a 'light' jail term and being branded as a sex offender the rest of your life. Wink

loliconer wrote:
By the way, Zac's right, get shows about little girls aimed towards adult men(like Ichigo Mashimaro(which I loved btw, but will not buy the DVDs cause this stuff needs to stay in Japan)) out of...well, America.


Thank you for associating Ichigo Mashimaro with lolicon even more strongly in the minds of some... Rolling Eyes

There is nothing wrong with Ichigo Mashimaro. It is NOT lolicon. I'm a big fan of the series, and not because I get off watching little girls. How anyone could see anything sexual in IM is completely beyond my ability to comprehend. It's a heartwarming story celebrating innocence. Just because it features young girls and is targeted at adult males doesn't mean it's intended as masturbation material.

Kitsune_Cool wrote:
I can't believe it. I can't believe how many people on here are trying to justify such sick fantasies. I've been watching anime and reading manga for a good 13 years, and it almost makes me want to quit.

How can I be like these people? YES, I said it. THESE people. Oh no, am I sterotyping? God forbid. The portrayal of little girls being raped or touched or whatever the hell else goes on this particular breed of anime is morally wrong. MORALLY wrong. I'm entitled to hold on to my morals, right? Are you going to try to tell me I'm not aloud to have them? That I'm oppressing a freedom? F you. Hitler oppressed, I'm voicing my opinion.

Do you have any idea what a child who has been sexually or physically assaulted goes through? Probably not. Oh, maybe you're book smart, but I seriously doubt you've had any, and pardon the pun, hands on experience. It stains a person. It doesn't just go away. The psychological effects are forever. And you're going to FANTASIZE about it? (yes, I KNOW it's only a cartoon, it's not REAL children, it's only PORTRAYING real children... Good grief, that's the lamest argument I have ever heard...)

It's sick. I can't believe how sick society is. I watch anime and read books and play games to forget about this twisted world... but there's no escaping it.

Pedophiles kill innocence. Even if you try to justify lolicon, even if, in your mind, it's only an animated figure, it has no bearing on reality, why in the world would you want to be associated with one of those horrors on any level? Seriously, why would you even want such a stigma touching you? Aren't there enough diversions in life? Can't you get your kicks somewhere else?

Please.

I was an abused child.
I was only 2 ½ when it started.

You want to know the damnedest thing? The nightmares never go away. Do you know what that's like? To always dream in nightmares? Probably not. My first memory is of hiding behind a freaking couch. Hiding from the man monster. I wasn't very good at hiding. He almost killed me before it stopped.

And the nightmares never go away.

Is this fuel for fantasy? Children are so innocent... they're so pure. Please explain lolicon to ME, because I don't understand.

I don't get it. I, as a former abused child, don't understand. Will one of you please explain?

This is stupid and redundant. I'm finished. It's not like you're going to convince anyone either way. I'm so depressed. I have a two year old baby girl, and this is the world I'm raising her in? So when she's, I don't know, 8, is she fair game? Is that how it works?

I was 2 1/2.

Please explain lolicon to me.

My first post in this thread and a rare change from lurker mode, and I take it on myself to respond to this... Confused

Your experience was horrible, and beyond my ability to even imagine. However, it's not relevent to the issue unless you can say lolicon material led to the abuse you suffered. If you can't, it's an appeal to emotion fallacy.
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