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HitokiriShadow
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There is certainly some overlap of moe and lolicon, but they are not the same thing. There is nothing inherently sexual or underage about moe.
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Shiroi Hane
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The reason they are not Moe is that any given Moe is not actually a thing as such, but is just a way of looking at what is generally known as the Whole Sort of General Cuteness. The Whole Sort of General Cuteness doesn't actually exist either, but it is just the sum total of all the different ways there would be of looking at it if it did. You can slice the Whole Sort of General Cuteness any way you like and you will generally come up with something that someone will call home.
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GATSU
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Ken Akamatsu's own words about moe. Link NSFW.
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Shiroi Hane
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A SFW translation of Akamatsu's thoughts on moe from 2005:
http://archive.is/sGYBz |
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Touma
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It would be really great if that could be made into a real forum rule. Unfortunately I doubt that it will work as an informal agreement. No matter what people mean by "moe" there are simple, ordinary English words that can be combined into a phrase that means the same thing, and is not ambiguous. The people who currently insist on using "moe" because they are not willing, or perhaps able, to use other words would most likely not follow the rule. |
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Paiprince
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Those shows DO have elements that bring out the moe feeling. (meek, cute girl that makes the viewer cherish and protect that girl) Another example would be Candy Candy. Oh and everyone's favorite: Azumanga Daioh. It's chock full of it.
Completely subjective. These are the same crowds who regard brainless shonen like Dragon Ball as the magnus opus of anime. Please don't think anime should be regarded as high art that should only come out with pretentious and "intellectually stimulating" content.
Melfina, Aisha, Eureka and even Anemone say hi.
Yes, and every American and European are supporting the industry right? Don't be stupid.
Huh? I don't know who you hang out with, but I'd get a shocking reaction from someone if I just pulled some random BL or yaoi pic and show it to some "normal" person to say the least. Also, I like how you clearly ignore the magnitude of vehement fervor the fujoshi crowd emit when it comes to their hawt guys. You obviously never been in or just tune out on the scene. You really need to pull your head out of your area. Yeah, we get it you hate the concept of it, but if you're just gonna cover your ears and only listen to music in your head, do yourself a favor and keep it to yourself lest you come off as a venting monkey. |
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Zalis116
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Touma
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After reading your second post I agree with you. I have not watched Outlaw Star yet, but Eureka and Anemone both bring out the moe in me. Especially Anemone near the end of the TV show. But I do wish that you would not have used "moeblobs." I was going to challenge you on that because I think that the word has very negative connotations. I usually see it used as a derogatory term for characters who supposedly have no purpose beyond their cuteness. |
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Fencedude5609
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"moeblob" is an inherently derogative term. It has no use other than to bash a character or fans of a character/series.
And once again, because people still find this [expletive] hard to understand, MOE IS SOMETHING FELT BY THE VIEWER. It is not a trait intrinsically held by a character. Just because I find a character moe doesn't mean you will, and vice versa. |
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Cptn_Taylor
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Well at least with Urutsukidoji and Kanashimi no belladonna you know that you're looking at material designed for adults. Animated pornography where the characters are adults, and most importantly look like adults.
Moe (let's put in the 2 most relevant manifestations lolicon and shotacon) are pornographic but a pornography that is considered world wide as being illegal. Because it concerns animating child like characters in sex scenes. The two things are not comparable at all. |
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Cptn_Taylor
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I never used the term moeblob. But I still think people that like lolicon and shotacon should be bashed until the end of time.
And once again you're confusing the cause with the effect. The moe feeling is created not by you but by those that are producing/animating the series/characters. The moe feeling is CONSEQUENCE of how the characters are depicted. And drawing them in the puni plush style + sexualizing them induces in the viewer what you aptly called the moe feeling. Now some viewers are more receptive to this while others are not. But DO NOT CONFUSE cause and effect. |
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Fencedude5609
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Are you trolling? I'm serious, are you just doing this to try and get a rise out of people? Or do you really believe this? |
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Paiprince
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...okay it's crystal clear you are unwilling to be educated on the real meaning of the term and insist on your own flawed perceptions opinions under the pretense to come off as the superior human being. Please stop. |
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Cptn_Taylor
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No I'm not trolling. I'm writing my opinion on the subject. Now tell me how Boku no pico is on the same level as Urutsukidoji or Kanashimi no belladonna or other hentai productions. I'm waiting. Tell me how can you justify sex between animated children. |
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Fencedude5609
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Huh? Who mentioned Boku no Pico? What does that have to do with anything? |
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