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FenixFiesta wrote:

That wasn't my main point, and if you thought it was you didn't bother reading my post thoroughly.

So says the person that misinterpreted my post to be about judging anime you haven't seen as opposed to being aware of a series existence and concept. Rolling Eyes

musouka wrote:

FenixFiesta wrote:

That wasn't my main point, and if you thought it was you didn't bother reading my post thoroughly.

So says the person that misinterpreted my post to be about judging anime you haven't seen as opposed to being aware of a series existence and concept. Rolling Eyes

I have made what amounts to a similar statement in multiple formats within this very thread, and I have found that you fit into the category of "pointless conversation" as far as this thread is concerned, so good day to you, sir.

thenix wrote:

I see what you are saying now. I thought it was the mere implications, or it being in the story at all that would make you want to stop watching but I think you mean more specifically shows based around it like kiss x sis. While I don't blame you I wouldn't let the theme stop me from enjoying a good anime. That being said I haven't seen one with an incest theme that I think is a must watch either.

As I said earlier, I'm sure some of these shows could have a good story, music, or other factors. But with the great amount of shows, movies, books, games, and other things that I can do and the limited free time that I have, these shows get the boot without a chance. Kiss x sis is on the extreme end, but that's an example.
There are lots of shows that even have "onichan" and "imouto" in the title. Others are harem with one of the girls being his sister. Though I tend to quickly skip harems as well.
I wouldn't bother with these shows when there are many other very good shows. There are many things I don't have time to enjoy, and these are the ones I am very fine letting go.

Galap wrote:

Based on a rough estimate from the ANN database and others like it, I think there are several thousand anime in existence. How many have you all on these boards seen? I'd say it's a fair bet to say that many of the prolific posters on here have seen a few hundred. What does that amount to? About ten percent. If they've seen upwards of a thousand, that's still like only an eighth or ninth. That means that they, who have seen a ton of stuff, still don't have experience with like 90% of the anime that exists, and I doubt anyone wouldn't call them a fan.

Database numbers aren't entirely consistent, as some sites like MAL will split off separate entries for minor things like "[Series Name] Hotsprings Omakes." But comparing watched percentages to all anime that exists isn't really relevant -- a good number of those titles are random early 20th-century shorts, WW2 propaganda animations, and 140-episode toy commercials from the 70s and 80s, and kiddy shows with ~5-minute episodes. In other words, stuff almost nobody cares about. A much better gauge would be the percentage seen of anime that are extant and available with English translations. Especially if you restrict things to non-pornographic anime, 1000+ becomes a much more sizable percentage.

FenixFiesta wrote:

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I really don't understand where this preference of having the horizontal dimension be almost twice the vertical dimension came from.

Partially has to due with the nature that humans naturally glance left to right instead of up and down when surveying there territory, also your eyes will generally focus on the middle of the screen and the peripheral vision of your eyes goes further off to the left/ride sides as well than they do top/bottom.

Finally, a better argument for 16:9 than "it fits the screen that I and other people happen to have at this moment in time."

Zalis116 wrote:

FenixFiesta wrote:

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I really don't understand where this preference of having the horizontal dimension be almost twice the vertical dimension came from.

Partially has to due with the nature that humans naturally glance left to right instead of up and down when surveying there territory, also your eyes will generally focus on the middle of the screen and the peripheral vision of your eyes goes further off to the left/ride sides as well than they do top/bottom.

Finally, a better argument for 16:9 than "it fits the screen that I and other people happen to have at this moment in time."

It's almost all arbitrary, we could have wound up with some kind of 'Scope aspect as the HD standard, to fit wide films. Wider aspects are expansive and fill your field of vision, which is why the epic films of the 50s and 60s tend to be in some form of it over just 1.85. In any case, the Academy ratio and and standard just wouldn't do.

Zalis116: You're post has a lot of validity. I use MAL to track, but it tracks the following as a single "entry": 1 Ep Specials that last 30 sec, 1 Ep extra DVD/BD episodes of 25 min length, 2 Ep Hentai/OVA's 20-30 min each ep, along with 100+ episode "entries" like One Piece, Bleach, Fairy Tail, Naruto, Galaxy Express, et al.

MAL and the ANN Enc. show *about* 7000 total "entries". I have completed just above 1100, Stark700 has above 1500, and walw6pK4Alo about 2000 (under a different screen name though, unless I am hallucinating, again...), and RyanSaotome has 600. All of us have hentai in our lists, though the above posters all have higher "time watched" than myself. Just a sampling of the major MAL lists that also post on ANN.

If you have seen a lot of pre-2000 shows, then a lot of those will be 26-to-whatever entries, while a lot of post-2000 "entries" will be 1-12 episodes with several entries for specials and OVA's. So the type of shows/OVA/specials you have watched has a big impact on the real meaning of those numbers.

So going back to ways to watch Asian dramas:
Depending on who provides your TV service, you could see if ordering international channels is possible. For example, with Comcast, there's the option to pay for 3 Chinese-languages channels (CCTV, CTI, and 1 HK channel), 1 Japanese, and 2 Korean, among others.
My household gets CTI (15$ a month*; oh Comcast, flexing your monopoly powers), so I'm certain that there's always at least a few dramas in the schedule; primarily a combination of mainland and Taiwan. Plus there's always one Korean drama (dubbed into Taiwanese Mandarin, of course) somewhere in there.
And if you're gonna play the learn the culture angle, watching news and documentaries does the better job, in my experience.
Of course, knowing the respective language would help a lot, but you can still pick up a lot just from the visual side.

*ok, technically on the bill it's CTI and CCTV, but we never switch to CCTV...

Somewhere wrote:

So going back to ways to watch Asian dramas:
Depending on who provides your TV service, you could see if ordering international channels is possible. For example, with Comcast, there's the option to pay for 3 Chinese-languages channels (CCTV, CTI, and 1 HK channel), 1 Japanese, and 2 Korean, among others.
My household gets CTI (15$ a month*; oh Comcast, flexing your monopoly powers), so I'm certain that there's always at least a few dramas in the schedule; primarily a combination of mainland and Taiwan. Plus there's always one Korean drama (dubbed into Taiwanese Mandarin, of course) somewhere in there.
And if you're gonna play the learn the culture angle, watching news and documentaries does the better job, in my experience.
Of course, knowing the respective language would help a lot, but you can still pick up a lot just from the visual side.

*ok, technically on the bill it's CTI and CCTV, but we never switch to CCTV...

Well Viki, Dramafever (some of them are on Hulu), and Crunchyroll has plenty of Chinese-language dramas with English subs if you're not aware of it. Are you not aware that Asian dramas (K-dramas and Chinese-language dramas) are on streaming that I mention on my first sentence of this post?

When the Ghibli BDs started coming out I remember there were regional comparisons and there were differences in terms of the amount of filtering involved (IIRC there was more grain in the Japanese BDs of Nausicaa than the US ones, and the UK ones were smoother again).

I don't own anything on BD from more than one region, but I did once do an R2J/R2E/R1 comparison for the Haruhi DVDs:
http://anime.thenexxus.org/haruhi/stuff/comparisons/

This was back when NTSC masters were common so the PAL conversion is always going to have an impact on the UK version, but the US version was notably different to the Japanese not only in the higher compression (due to more episodes on the disc, dual audio and subtitles etc.) but it was also sharper for some reason.

Zac wrote:

How about ditching all the stupid tribalism

Signs that I shouldn't be reading stuff at 5:30am: trying to figure out why Zac was talking about tribadism.

@mdo7
I seriously stop reading your posts as soon as I hit any word starting with "K-". It's getting old.
Also, when you go all snomaster I don't even start reading the post at all.

Shiroi Hane wrote:

@mdo7
I seriously stop reading your posts as soon as I hit any word starting with "K-". It's getting old.
Also, when you go all snomaster I don't even start reading the post at all.

So I'm not the only one. Huh. How about that..... Wink

Definitely not the only one. My rule is any mdo7 post that is more than one sentence and contains a capital-K is immediately skipped. Next. Twisted Evil

Shiroi Hane wrote:

@mdo7
I seriously stop reading your posts as soon as I hit any word starting with "K-". It's getting old.
Also, when you go all snomaster I don't even start reading the post at all.

Himeko90 wrote:

Shiroi Hane wrote:

@mdo7
I seriously stop reading your posts as soon as I hit any word starting with "K-". It's getting old.
Also, when you go all snomaster I don't even start reading the post at all.

So I'm not the only one. Huh. How about that..... Wink

rydia251 wrote:

Definitely not the only one. My rule is any mdo7 post that is more than one sentence and contains a capital-K is immediately skipped. Next. Twisted Evil

I'm not going to go off-topic over this, but I'm fine if you ignore any post if I mention K-whatever, but other people may bring this up because Answerman already mention J-dramas, so other people may bring up K-dramas as example, so it's unavoidable, so it won't be me only.

But for now, I won't say anything anymore on this because well I have nothing else to say, I already express my opinion.

mdo7 wrote:

I'm not going to go off-topic over this, but I'm fine if you ignore any post if I mention K-whatever, but other people may bring this up because Answerman already mention J-dramas, so other people may bring up K-dramas as example, so it's unavoidable, so it won't be me only.

No, it's usually only you that brings it up.

Himeko90 wrote:

mdo7 wrote:

I'm not going to go off-topic over this, but I'm fine if you ignore any post if I mention K-whatever, but other people may bring this up because Answerman already mention J-dramas, so other people may bring up K-dramas as example, so it's unavoidable, so it won't be me only.

No, it's usually only you that brings it up.

So what about other people like Poonk, he would usually bring that up too from time to time. I said other people, what if they brought that up, are you going to criticize them too like you did to me.

Actually, Hineko90 I'm already fed up with you sending me PMs accusing me of soapboxing when none of the mod on this thread gave me any warning or none of my comments got delete or edit in any way. Hineko90, if you send me another PM accusing me of soapboxing, I'll report you to the mod for trolling (and if this applies, cyber-bullying). I've already saved all the PM you sent me as evidence (don't make me turn them in) so I'm telling you to stop sending me PM accusing me of soapboxing (ironically, isn't sending PM to a person accusing of soapboxing considered soapboxing??? Rolling Eyes

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If anime is so great right now then why can't we get a show as good as good as Evangelion, Utena, or Paranoia Agent? Is that ever going to happen again, or should I not hold my breath?

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