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Banken



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:29 am Reply with quote
I can't help but think that writing a story about children being killed one by one like cattle in line in a slaughterhouse is just literary pornography. What is the point? How is this entertaining? What sort of person writes this sort of story? Here and Now, Now and Then came close to this, but at least it ended on an up-note.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:44 am Reply with quote
Viz needs to re-release Bokurano uncensored and unedited, or give it up for someone else like Seven Seas to license.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 4:19 am Reply with quote
configspace wrote:
Viz needs to re-release Bokurano uncensored and unedited, or give it up for someone else like Seven Seas to license.


That reminds me....I need to finish Narutaru uncensored(those who don't know, same guy who did Bokurano).
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 12:16 pm Reply with quote
Banken wrote:
I can't help but think that writing a story about children being killed one by one like cattle in line in a slaughterhouse is just literary pornography. What is the point? How is this entertaining? What sort of person writes this sort of story? Here and Now, Now and Then came close to this, but at least it ended on an up-note.

Thats how tragedies work, they are supposed to be tragic.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:18 pm Reply with quote
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What he's saying is that in his eyes watching a bunch of kids get killed off one by one isn't tragic, but more along the lines of watching pornography or a snuff film.
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Rederoin



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:39 pm Reply with quote
dtm42 wrote:
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What he's saying is that in his eyes watching a bunch of kids get killed off one by one isn't tragic, but more along the lines of watching pornography or a snuff film.

So we shouldn't have tragedies involving teens?
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Banken



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:07 pm Reply with quote
A story where children are forced by some plot device to pilot mecha and fight a war in which many of them die is tragic. A story where they die simply from piloting the mecha for some arbitrary reason shoots over tragedyville and lands in pornography land.

Is there any non-spoiler reason why

A They have to fight
B They have to use a mecha to fight
C Children have to pilot the mecha
D The mecha kills the pilot
E People are still willing to pilot the mecha
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:02 am Reply with quote
Deus ex machina comes down and says, "kid, yer gonna die". Lo and behold, the kid dies. If I wanted to watch true-life stories about kiddies doomed by things entirely beyond their control I'd hang around paediatric oncology wards.

More abstractly.

I always thought "tragedy" wasn't just a "sad story" but one where "people's own flaws lead them to making bad decisions that bring about their destruction".

You know, like hamlet or macbeth or what-have-you. The character has to... earn, I guess, their suffering, have to be able to avoid it but they can't because of the sort of person they are. To "deserve" it, almost.

Say, Hell Girl, where despite the assembly-line nature of the deaths [two doomed people an episode or twice your money back] the characters are shown as, ultimately, exercising agency, chosing the tragic outcomes. Or even Narutaru. Shiina's a damned fool, and Sakura Akira is even worse, but they do make choices that change their position. For the worse, always, because it's the sort of show it is, but the potential is there.

Not what we've got here, is it?
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Banken



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:05 am Reply with quote
I agree. The plot of Bokurano seems more like a sadistic thought exercise than an attempt at entertainment.

And the guy who wrote it is known for writing stories about horrible things happening to kids. So... yeah.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:21 am Reply with quote
nargun wrote:
I always thought "tragedy" wasn't just a "sad story" but one where "people's own flaws lead them to making bad decisions that bring about their destruction".


Banken wrote:
I agree. The plot of Bokurano seems more like a sadistic thought exercise than an attempt at entertainment.


What nargun and Banken said.

I ended up dropping Bokurano after about 5 volumes, and this review didn't exactly have me second-guessing my decision to do so. I rather liked Narutaru despite its occasional unpleasantness, and thus I held out high hopes for Bokurano. The problem though is that the whole exercise comes across as rather heavy-handed. Maybe the problem was that I never really bought into the reason why these battles had to occur in the first place. The technobabble "pruning various alternate universes" explanation wasn't all that satisfying. Also, the idea of seeing how people would react when asked to commit genocide is a potentially interesting one, but then the "us or them" nature of the battles sort of neutralizes that in my opinion.
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