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trilaan
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Well, first of all tanks are considered to be "the art for young girls with a long history." Therefore tanks are considered feminine, which is actually said outright in the tankery video shown at the school as well as by one of the characters. So, if tanks are considered feminine, very likely warfare is considered to be a more feminine pursuit. Also in the tankery video, the crowd is mostly made up of males practically fawning over the apparently all female tank crews in the parade, which we can assume would also be a common sight for soldiers returning from wartime and being a soldier is primarily a traditionally male career. And so, if females are most responsible for making and fighting in wars, females are most likely those in primary charge of the governments as well, ergo a matriarchy. To get more in-depth: The part that says tankery has a long history with females is the first indicator that the society presented in the first episode is matriarchal one, due to the length of time it takes to establish such a thing(more on this later). It's also said that "Modern guys like girls that are strong and dependable." In our world this view is traditionally the exact opposite. Furthermore, the video says that tankery is supposed to make women, among other things, more gallant, and gallantry has been more traditionally known as a male trait and used to describe how men should treat women. These first(the history of tankery) and last two indicators(government and male/female relations) do not happen overnight but are part of a long process of societal growth that takes hundreds or thousands of years to develop. So that's why I think it is a matriarchal society, based on what I saw in the first episode. |
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dtm42
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It's an interesting theory and you make a good case for it, but I personally don't think you're right. |
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Echo_City
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The video for Tankery also made no mention of Tankery making girls into better soldiers, only into better wives, mothers, students and workers. I believe that it is a pretty big jump to go from "women using outdated tanks in a school competition" to "society where women fight the wars and occupy the positions of power" |
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trilaan
Posts: 1054 Location: Texas |
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Thank you for the kind reply, even if you don't agree. Now, even if I'm proven wrong about that specific part of the society we see, it still holds true that I'd rather see how the society itself came about because I find it much more interesting than a story about girls with tanks. I bet it would be quite an epic story.
Well, if schools are not a good indication of an overall society, I don't know what is. Love your term "moeblobs" BTW. |
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Banken
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I have yet to watch the series but I'm pretty sure senshadou (tank-fu) is just a more interesting (to military otaku) stand-in for soujutsu, the art of the naginata (Japanese halberd), which is the traditional martial art of women in Japan.
But really it's just an excuse for moeblobs to drive tanks. Just like Upotte! was an excuse for moeblobs to shoot assault rifles and So Ra No Wo To was an excuse for moeblobs to shoot battle rifles and drive tanks. |
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FenixFiesta
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One cannot freely use the term "moeblob" on an English speaking forum without inciting the nature that said writer more than likely has a prejudice against said moe themed series.
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mdreura
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It's been a while, but I can't remember any rifles being fired at any point in Sora no Woto, and the emotionless girl just manages to get the tank up and running in time for the last episode. The show's mostly about a girl learning to play the bugle. You're dismissing it without ever having seen it, aren't you. 
Never change ANN forums. |
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Banken
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No. I'm not. I liked Upotte! and Soranowoto. I used the term moeblob because it's funny.
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Echo_City
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Personally, I'm tired of moeblob as there are just so many and so few of them are actually innovative: If you've seen one, you've pretty much seen 'em all, and if you've seen K-On! (as I have, several times) then you've seen pretty much the best that they have to offer. Also, due to the underage-looking character designs when moeblob shows get really fanservicey (which GuP is said to not) it gets really creepy IMO. |
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Banken
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...that's because moe show characters are almost always underaged. So it should be creepy regardless of how they look. The difference is that K-On girls, for example look at least three years younger than they are.
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Fencedude5609
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They don't. Please stop using it. |
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southplumb
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I didn't get a sense that Girls und Panzer was about a matriarchal society, though I could see it being matrilineal, with women doing most of the work. I didn't realize at first that it was a women's school and that that giant ship was the school, so when the girls went into the bowels of the ship, I was looking for a male crew, or morlocks. I liked the series and the main characters, but their world, which got hit by quite a few tank rounds, took a lot of suspension of disbelief.
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rydia251
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Finally watching GuP for the first time, was waiting for the BD (I am a patient SOB, considering I was a WWII history nut when I was a teenager).
I love cute things, but a pink M3 makes me want to kick a puppy. I can deal with a StuG III being translated as Assault III (which was even referred in the first episode as a "Pz III with assault gun", sort of correct but still not really correct...), but pink tanks... Otherwise the genius who devised the combination of cute girls and tanks deserves a medal or three. Is Sensha-boner a word yet? |
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Banken
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Think about it this way... in real life it takes a huge investment of time and money to keep a vintage tank in operating condition. It's not going to have the original paint, regardless. Most vintage Panzers still in existence were dragged out of swamps after being left there for decades. So what's the harm of painting it pink? At least the owner isn't letting it rust or cannibalizing it for parts.
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rydia251
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Well, all right. I guess I can accept that reasoning. The bigger crime would be allowing it to rust. Anyway back to booze and girls and tanks! Halfway through!
"Woodhouse - do we have any lube? Seriously even olive oil would work at this point." - The Incomparable Sterling Archer (paraphrasing, but pretty close). Too bad he doesn't know his tanks. But he knows his booze and women. Close enough. |
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