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NEWS: Miyazaki's The Wind Rises Nominated for Animated Film Oscar

There were only three nomination slots, Toy Story 3 and How To Train Your Dragon were shoe-ins, and Sylvain Chomet's The Illusionist was the foreign animated film with enough critical momentum to be nominated.

Even if there had been five nominees that year, Summer Wars would have to have duked it out with the not-nominated-but-still-successful Tangled and Despicable Me for the remaining slots and I don't think that's a battle the Jinnouchi family could've won.

But I'd be interested to know: who votes on this award? Is it members of an animation union, or a subset of the Academy, or all its members? Presumably, that would have an effect on who's seen what (e.g., if it's just any member, then you'd expect fewer votes for the annual European-film-that's-probably-good-but-we-haven't-seen-it entry)

The Borrowers Arrietty wasn't eligible, it was a 2010 release in Japan but wasn't released in North America until early 2012, just a hair beyond the one calender year extension the Academy grants foreign films in the category to play in Los Angeles for a week. Since 2011 was such a weak year for animation, Disney could've done a late autumn L.A. screening before the wider release in February 2012 and I think it would have had a decent shot at the nomination, but they didn't.

Not that I'm a huge fan of Best Picture getting 10 slots (or 9 this year, I don't know why they arbitrarily removed one without going back to five).

CrowLia wrote:

Also: Ouch Pixar. First Cars 2 and now MU. Why won't they take the hint "we don't want more half-assed sequels"? Then again, what do they care if the godawful Cars/Planes franchise is bringing them bucketloads of money :/

Y'know, with TS3 and MU behind us, and the Finding Nemo sequel to follow, I look forward to a day...I don't know, maybe five years, ten years away, I'm just dreaming...when we can STOP telling angry knee-jerk Disney-Pixar fans the story of how Pixar was forced to do the sequels to properly bury legal/ownership obligations dating back to those crappy Circle 7 sequels Eisner threatened to make during his well-publicized feud with Pixar. (Well, okay, the script to Eisner's Monsters sequel wasn't "crappy", but Pixar was barred from using it anyway.)

I know, it's just a dream, but I have hope and faith, someday, education and knowledge will prevail, and we can finally rest knowing our work has been done...

The committee doesn't like Dreamworks and Illuminations taking over the category (that they've come to expect "should" go to either Pixar or Disney),

I prefer Tangled a bit more than Frozen mainly because there's a couple things that just bugged me more in Frozen. *Possible spoilers* I don't like how the guy just turned heel seemingly all of a sudden - although I like how it broke the mold of first love at first sight for all time that's so prevalent nowadays including anime/manga, and that the act of true love after all that didn't turn out to come from any guy - or any other person for that matter. (If that was his plan beforehand, why didn't he just let the queen be hurt in battle?)

Mohawk:

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It may get nominated, but there's no way in hell it will win when they come to the realisation it's a tribute to the man which designed the plane that bombed Pearl Horbour and got the US into WW2 finally.

Again, they included that Nazi propaganda movie bitch in a tribute when she died, so anything's possible.

RedemptionRevenge wrote:

The reason that Spirited Away won the Oscar is because it was so unique, both visually and in terms of its plot, and the Academy would have been stupid to let that one slip through its fingers.

Don't dismiss Disney's influence that easily.

Because her movie, which they sort of have an interest in being the Academy of Film and all, didn't attack any US territorial possessions causing much death and destruction like the Zero did.

*possible spoilery stuff being commented on*

enurtsol wrote:

I prefer Tangled a bit more than Frozen mainly because there's a couple things that just bugged me more in Frozen. *Possible spoilers* I don't like how the guy just turned heel seemingly all of a sudden - although I like how it broke the mold of first love at first sight for all time that's so prevalent nowadays including anime/manga, and that the act of true love after all that didn't turn out to come from any guy - or any other person for that matter. (If that was his plan beforehand, why didn't he just let the queen be hurt in battle?)

So you had the same problem with Frozen that I did, huh? That's why I've been arguing with some people on the internet who, obviously in a fresh fandom state, call it the best Disney movie ever.
...They ignored the flaws that are so blatantly obvious.

The undeclared, un-definied villain(s) were a big flaw of Frozen. I do loved how 'real' they made it by showing that everyone is not as good as they seem; that no one is perfect; and that loving family is just as important as anything else.

I'd add the stupid snow-man (olaf)'s constant, almost forced humor, even during important scenes to be a put-off. Even in the important scene where she could die at the end, he cracks a joke about the melting thing. I'm all for humor with the "mascot" characters but there is a point when its too much.

Still love the move, though, and will buy it when it releases on DVD/Blu.