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NEWS: Russian Man Sentenced in "Child Pornography Anime" Case


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ATastySub
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:09 pm Reply with quote
Hey everybody lets continue to ignore the fact that both involve people getting off to images of children. The entire reason for its existence is for those that are sexually attracted to children. Saying it's not is like saying the T&A shows aren't for people that like T&A. It's amazing how in the same breath you guys complain about Russia's child porn yet defend your own because, "it has a market," when they are the same market; people that sexualize children.
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Chagen46



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:12 pm Reply with quote
That's not true in the slightest, but you're free to believe falsities.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:19 pm Reply with quote
ATastySub wrote:
Hey everybody lets continue to ignore the fact that both involve people getting off to images of children.


Drawings are not images of children.

If laws allowed such fantasies to have a place in society - regardless of how disturbing it might seem to most - these people could have something legal to get off on, and they wouldn't have to go after the real thing.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:31 pm Reply with quote
ATastySub wrote:
Hey everybody lets continue to ignore the fact that both involve people getting off to images of children. The entire reason for its existence is for those that are sexually attracted to children.


Okay. So is the goal to protect children from sexual exploitation, or to imprison people for being creepy? The police mostly do the latter, because it's easier. The former is obviously what we should be doing, instead of wasting resources on thoughtcrime.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:33 pm Reply with quote
7jaws7 wrote:
they wouldn't have to go after the real thing.


Also, majority of lolicon otaku couldn't care less about the "real thing", as they have affection to it being fiction itself. Not to mention that many of them actually identify with the one who's being "molested", not the molester.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:33 pm Reply with quote
ATastySub wrote:
Hey everybody lets continue to ignore the fact that both involve people getting off to images of children. The entire reason for its existence is for those that are sexually attracted to children. Saying it's not is like saying the T&A shows aren't for people that like T&A. It's amazing how in the same breath you guys complain about Russia's child porn yet defend your own because, "it has a market," when they are the same market; people that sexualize children.


And to be frank, you may find it disgusting, but I've studied enough about sexual exploration in the human race to know that it's quite natural. It was even LEGAL for a great majority of the human race's modern history, and there's enough evidence to suggest that a good chunk of the human race had sex with children (yes, even older women and younger men). Societies made it illegal because people started to care for the well-being and will of children.
Somewhere along the line, people were so afraid of those who had the mere POTENTIAL to hurt children that they started locking away those who wrote and read novels about sexual exploitation of children.

I'm not sure what YOU believe, but I certainly don't consider looking at fictional illustrations of children in sexual situations dangerous. Certainly, there are a few who might actually go out and molest real children, but saying that EVERYONE who reads the stuff is automatically guilty or dangerous by default and needs to be locked away?

I thought the world of Psycho-Pass was a future we wanted to avoid. =P
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:45 pm Reply with quote
ATastySub wrote:
It's amazing how in the same breath you guys complain about Russia's child porn yet defend your own because, "it has a market," when they are the same market

Except for the small problem that he was prosecuted over an anime, not the anime and a bunch of photographs/videos of actual minors being violated. We might as well start locking up people who watch action movies or play violent video games, because the only people who would want to watch or play them are those who fantasize about committing mass murder. After all, murder is murder, fictional or not.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:21 am Reply with quote
ATastySub wrote:
when they are the same market; people that sexualize children.


So people who watch fictional violent movies are the same market as those who watch snuff films? People who eat chili are the same market as those who burn their digestive system with acid?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:24 am Reply with quote
Welp, in Russia they castrate convicted pedophiles, so I feel sorry for this guy.
Seriously hope Russia won't take over my country; Wouldn't want them to find my loli-collection. Razz

Hey Russia, why won't you do something productive for once?
You've some issues with some actual child porn being produced in your country, right?
So why won't you go after those guys instead.

Deacon Blues wrote:
Child porn is still child porn whether it is real or animated. There is no getting around that.


Fictional children =/= Real children

Take your pick and you can only choose one, who would you rather defend? Rolling Eyes
By the way, there's a huge difference between these two, just wanted to point that out.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:38 am Reply with quote


Take your pick...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:58 am Reply with quote
According to the 1986 Meese Commission's Report on Pornography, this type of pornographic artwork originated in ancient Greece.
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shamisen the great



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:12 am Reply with quote
ATastySub wrote:
Hey everybody lets continue to ignore the fact that both involve people getting off to images of children. The entire reason for its existence is for those that are sexually attracted to children. Saying it's not is like saying the T&A shows aren't for people that like T&A. It's amazing how in the same breath you guys complain about Russia's child porn yet defend your own because, "it has a market," when they are the same market; people that sexualize children.
I think it is debatable whether people attracted to cartoon children are also attracted to real children, but that's beside the point. As long as they aren't actually harming anyone (and I do think real cp is harmful) I don't see the problem. I wouldn't go publicly announcing your predilection for lolicon hentai, though. People will, and rightfully so, be wary of you.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:35 am Reply with quote
mdo7 wrote:
Oh boy, here we go Rolling Eyes

This isn't going to help Russia while they send troops to the Crimean region of Ukraine and turn it into a international crisis.

It's not just in Russia, but also in Ukraine as well.
In 2009, Ukraine passed a law that has banned pornography in their country (pornography for medical purposes are legal) .
A Ukrainian porn actress has also gone into hiding to avoid prosecution.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_in_Europe#Ukraine
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configspace



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:43 am Reply with quote
Any actual hentai, no matter how offensive should still be legal, but just to get the facts straight with regards to this story:
- This is not porn. No hentai show has 13 episodes
- This is not loli. 14 to 18 aren't loli
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 3:14 am Reply with quote
Alunimus wrote:


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Russia's anti-gay law
Ha-ha, this thing's always cracks me up! Prohibition of LGBT propaganda =| anti-gay law. I have some gay friends living in Russia and they're fine. This law only prohibits such ridiculous things as gay-parades.


Wow, you're a twit. Your friends are clearly VERY FORTUNATE to live in some of the few tolerant places in Russia then. Throughout the country, the law in question is being used as an implicit excuse to beat, torture, humiliate and shame (and probably kill) LGBT people by police and right-wing extremists alike. Anti-gay propaganda (including that sanctioned by the government) is rife and purports completely non-sensical rubbish to simply inspire and spread further ignorance and hate e.g. a common "fact" given is that the majority of gay men are also apparently peadophiles. Please do a little basic fact checking before spouting rubbish. Your assumedly handful of friends are not representative of the entirety of Russia's populace.
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