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Touma
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I think that I am agreeing with SouthPacific. This is a good review of the show, but since the title says that it is a review of the limited edition there should be some information about what makes this edition limited. That would be about not just the box but anything that comes with the limited edition in addition to the discs. If there are other editions it would be nice to know what the difference is. If this is the only edition and it just has a limited print run it would be good for people to know about that. If this information is in the review and I missed it then I apologize for that. |
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
Posts: 7912 Location: Anime News Network Technodrome |
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OK, you wanted more info about the packaging. Got it.
Going on and on this long about it seems more like you're struggling to find something to complain about with the review, though. |
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Dfens
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I can understand a little about wanting more details about the packaging since a unboxing on youtube isn't always the best option to judge.
For me most of the time packaging isn't that much of a big deal since it sits on a shelf for most of the time until I want to watch it. But since I'm a sucker for companies Limited Editions and usually buy them because they are a few bucks more I just bite the bullet and buy it even if it's not that much better. A lot of the time your stuck with whatever they box it in if it's only released a certain way. Case in point my buddy got his copy of the Limited Edition Psycho Pass early a title I was debating picking up. It's cool that it comes with 2 sound track CD's and the art work on the blu ray cases especially the Artbox looks amazing. But the actual box itself looked pretty cheap you could see the wrap around paper hanging in one corner. And for the extra premium price they were charging you think it would be better than the other LE box sets they put out. Plus the extra items the pass holder, sticker, and business card holder where cheap as hell. I would never use them probably sell them which I never do with extras. Other than the artwork design on the box and the CD's which have some amazing tracks I wouldn't recommend it over the regular edition. |
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Animerican14
Posts: 963 Location: Saint Louis, MO |
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It's not like JO's few remarks about the packaging means that ALL OTHER reviews say so little about the packaging. But even considering that, I don't think ANN reviews have ever been known to really get into the nitty-gritty technical side of things of the products they review; a lot of the time, the physical product that's reviewed is reviewed for the show content and dub/video extras if they're provided. Which is understandable, because I think more people care about that as opposed to the more technical things collectors care about. (Though then again, this is a release catered towards most towards collectors...)
SouthPacific, if you really want to read a review about the packaging, may I direct you (again) towards Chris Beveridge's review of Part 2? Why not rely on fandompost if you want all your reviews to discuss packaging and other technical aspects? That's been part of FP's and Beveridge's shtick for as long as I can remember, back when Beveridge regularly ran animeondvd.com. Now... isn't there more interesting things that could be discussed here? About the show content, dub, etc...? It doesn't exactly feel good that what I devoted a great amount of time to posting last night has seemed to be completely ignored so far, for instance... Last edited by Animerican14 on Fri Mar 07, 2014 2:08 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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SouthPacific
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Your perception of this is quite wrong. I'm not struggling to find something to complain about (please take a few seconds of your time read my initial post), what i'm struggling with is trying to explain to two or three individuals (and with your reply another one has been added to that list...) that when someone says they're doing a review of a physical anime release, one should also expect that they cover the physical part as well, and not only the show itself. Had the title read "Fate/Zero 2nd season" review then there wouldn't have been a problem, because that is reviewed in great detail. Ugh. I'm not sure what's so hard to understand about my statement, if you review a physical product you can't just disregard the physical part, it's as easy as that .... |
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SpacemanHardy
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Only in the anime fandom would people get so worked up over a piece of cardboard.
Youths today, I tells ya. |
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
Posts: 7912 Location: Anime News Network Technodrome |
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I said "OK. You wanted more info about the packaging. Got it." That's it. I'm not going to tell the writer to go write more about the cardboard box and postcards. It's a really minor quibble but you've managed to go on about it for like 3 pages of feedback. I'm the editor of the piece, I heard what your complaint was, I'm not going to add anything to this particular review but in the future if it's an LE review I'll ask the critic to talk a little more about the LE packaging. This show is very complex and the writer had a ton to say about it and it's a shame that the ensuing discussion is "WHY DIDN'T YOU TALK ABOUT THE POSTCARDS AND JEWEL CASES MORE" for pages and pages. I heard you the first time, let it go now. |
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SouthPacific
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Lol spaceman, I was just waiting for you to come in and say that. I pledged for the MMM kickstarter, and I also saw that you got quite upset over there in the comment section because you hated postcards in anime releases, and really went out of your way to express your hatred for them. spoiler[And lets not forget you had to bring up Aniplex over there as well, that hade me literally LOLing. I didn't reply, but it was good to see that those who did managed to keep it civil.] So yeah, your statement really doesn't hold much value when you start fuming from postcards being present in some anime releases. And i'm not talking about the piece of cardboard that is the box, but the physical release as a whole. What physical extras were present? Were there any known illustrators who had done the cover artwork, whether it was for the art box or the BD cases etc? spoiler[Were there any postcards ?] All of that stuff matters, because it's part of the release, and the title of this review clearly says "REVIEW: Fate/Zero Blu-ray Box Set II". @Zac, thanks for listening. Hopefully in future reviews of releases where a lot of work and effort has been put into the physical stuff we can get something more than "nice packaging" . |
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HitokiriShadow
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Like I said, I don't disagree that Kariya's motivations had problems in the end. I wasn't arguing against the overall point, just that I don't think Sakura works for the 'saving people from their own choices' part. I agree that his motivations were not solely about saving her and were instead about her mother, that was a problem. Perhaps you could argue that this was not a good way to go about solving the problem. But like saving her from her own choices, 'not understanding her' seems really odd. She's being forced to be a child soldier and part of the 'training' is being raped by magic bugs. She has no choice in this, she just has to find whatever ways she can to endure it. Arguably he didn't understand that she had accepted her situation by this point, but I don't see how that matters. Again, I agree with the overall point about Kariya's motivations, it's very specifically the Saktura part I'm arguing about. |
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Doodleboy
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Like I said interesting ideas! I liked how people with High Crime Co-efficents tend to be creative or intelligent thinkers. I like how the Sybil system is the ultimate nanny-state and the conformist culture disenfranchising intellectuals. Although the Hyper-oats is silly it does mimic corn-subsidies and processed foods. I liked how when the first real crisis to the city happens it's revealed that the police are massively under-equipped. I like what the show is trying to say about society, law, and people's roles within it. But the characters and execution was uneven at best. Kiritsugu, Irisviel, Homura, Gilgamesh, Sayaka and even Kirei are more interesting and have more well-done character arcs then anybody in Psychopass. And it would be fun to talk more about this. But this is a Fate/Zero review and I don't want to get modded out for being off topic. |
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luffypirate
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Gotta admit, I'm sort of curious about the box design! It looks very similar to the JP sets that I own (it looks like they even went out of their way to replicate the obi!) I started losing interest in buying Aniplex products day one because of that same format they were using over and over for their limited edition boxes. I want something to blow my mind again like the Rakkyo DVD box. Now that was lovely!
edit: still ticked they didn't get/translate the Consultation Room segments...this show had minimal special features to begin with so I hate that they couldn't get if for us! |
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Redcrimson
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Yeah, we'll just have to agree to disagree for now. To reiterate though, I don't actually think Fate/Zero is bad by any stretch, but I do think it's more flawed as a narrative than Psycho-Pass or Madoka. |
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Key
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Actually, it's more because none of us regular reviewers are technophiles - and that is almost certainly coincidence rather than intent. The technical details that Chris Beveridge talks about in his review mostly fly over my head. But I think that's totally fine. There are other review sites which have a laser focus on the technical details but are generally far less verbose about other aspects of the production than we are, so it all balances out. |
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Mr Sinister
Posts: 157 Location: NY |
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Reading this review feels like such sweet redemption. Thank you for this JO.
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YesNoMaybe
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Posts: 174 Location: Columbus, OH |
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Since the second part was reviewed by another person, sorry, but I consider the overall review of this anime show invalid!
Having another reviewer to do the second part just seem to be appeasing the masses! |
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