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Maidenoftheredhand
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I expect if I knew Japanese I would love CD dramas but unfortunately not having that skill drama CDs have little value to me.
However I do love listening to audio dramas in English. I listen to a bunch from the UK and recently have gotten quite into Big Finish productions. They are usually what gets me through a day at work. |
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RedHotPT
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There are about 120 animes this season.
Almost half if Kodomo and young teen shows, but in the outer half there are the mainstream anime and the late night anime. The variety is such that is almost impossible not find some anime that people like. That is what is great about anime, the number of subjects in the shows (action, drama, romance, comedy, fantasy, mecha, martial arts, BL, yuri, slice of life, sports, fan service and moe). Never have been so many animes by season and with so much variety. Been Japanese, American or European, its possible to find animes you like. Anime have few fans in western countries, and instead of attack the tastes of the other anime fans, we should be united defending anime in general. Im happy when appear new mainstreams anime, happy when appear new BL or yuri anime, and happy when appear new moe, harem , fan service animes. What is important is that are new animes in the season you can chose your favorites from. |
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Mister Ryan Andrews
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Quoted for truth.
 That's funny, you're a funny guy, I like you. All this ethnocentrism some American fans display is absolutely hilarious to watch. Always fun to see a country that has zero stake in an foreign industry insist they're the only people who matter.
People who legitimately say that show they have NO idea about the industry outside their little nostalgia bubble. Anime back during the 80s and 90s was HORRIBLE. There was only about 25 shows made a year. Less than what we get in a single season nowadays. And most of it was cutsey shows for kids. I'd like to see these people break down all the amazing anime of the 80s and 90s by year and see just how little of it there is for a 20 year partition. I'll go ahead and get people started. http://oi59.tinypic.com/2dqsttu.jpg Try to say with a straight face that year was better as a whole than 2013. |
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Rederoin
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Here is a list the number of tv anime that aired in the last 24 years. 1990 50 1991 39 1992 62 1993 30 1994 38 1995 40 1996 46 1997 50 1998 82 1999 89 2000 64 2001 95 2002 95 2003 111 2004 128 2005 127 2006 181 2007 159 2008 147 2009 146 2010 130 2011 138 2012 155 2013 170+ 2014 146(so far, with confirmed release dates) 2014 only includes anime that have aired in winter or have been announced for Spring/Summer/Autumn. At this rate, it'll be the busiest year in anime tv history. |
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Utsuro no Hako
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There is a period from 1979-80 where the number of classics on air and in theaters is beyond belief -- Harlock was just ending, Galaxy Express was in the middle of its run with the theatrical films starting to come out, Gundam, Rose of Versailles and Doraemon premiered on TV along with sequels to Yamato, Gatchaman and Cyborg 009, while The Castle of Cagliostro, Aim for the Ace, Unico and Triton of the Sea were in theaters. True, that great run ddn't last, but it's certainly a more impressive lineup than we got last year. |
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GVman
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I watched all of two shows in 2013, and I see eleven in 1996 that I either love or want to watch. It's not about the quantity of the shows, but the quality. Not to mention that I really like the common points of the artwork from that era, as well as the 80s and the 70s. I just don't care for the way much of the stuff today tends to look. It all comes down to personal tastes, and, quite frankly, my tastes just don't usually sync up with today's anime as much as they do the older stuff. Last edited by GVman on Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:11 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Rederoin
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How can you judge the quality the shows from 2013 if you only saw 2 shows? Just to make it clear, I don't think any year of anime is objectively better than another. |
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GVman
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I'm not saying it's better; I'm saying there's more stuff that interests me. All I watched last year was Diabolik Lovers (best worst show I've seen in a while) and Kill la Kill. And why would I watch more than the two shows that interest me?
Basically, 1996 was a better year for me. Maybe not for you or Ryan, but it definitely was for me. |
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Rederoin
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Ah okay, that makes it more clear. I just was a bit confused. |
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Touma
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It would not be counterproductive for people who are not interested in the performances of the Japanese actors but are interested in the performances of the English actors.
Was that intended as an insult to people who prefer dubs? I certainly took it as an insult, but maybe I am reading it wrong or just being too sensitive. As for the profitability, Justin says that an anime dub costs at least $7,000 per episode. Would a drama CD cost about the same for 20 to 25 minutes? They would probably be easier for the actors and directors to record because there is no animation to match, but doesn't a drama CD usually have more dialog per minute than anime? I am wondering if drama CD's have the same problem as light novels, with the market not being big enough to support the cost of translation. The cost of translation would also apply to subtitles. |
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Parse Error
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And if so, why put them down? I understand why taking a "no dub, no buy" stance is counterproductive, and it certainly is not my own position as I much prefer subtitles anyway. However, it only makes sense for someone with a limited budget to reserve it for things they can readily enjoy. Is that camp widely despised because they're so vocal or something? |
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agila61
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But the point stands that in order to achieve a moderate level of success, it needs to have accompanying graphic art. It could be slideshow art, whether shots of existing manga panels, additional art of the kind that accompanies light novel chapters, or pose photographs, but the art is necessary for a subtitle translation of a radio drama to have a shot of success. I've enjoyed the two Manga2.5 series on Crunchyroll {+}, but I've noticed that they seem to be focusing on English dubbed motion comics ... surely it must be cheaper to provide an inanimated slideshow to accompany an existing Japanese audio track than to dub existing manga art into English, color it and apply pseudo-animation gimmicks. {+ well, enjoyed one and enjoyed the other as much as I'm going to enjoy a series of that genre.}
This being the internet, the odds are high that somebody, in some discussion forum somewhere has made most claims we can come up with as "nobody said, ever" lines. Last edited by agila61 on Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:28 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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Mr. Oshawott
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Out of all those shows from late 1995-1996, the only anime shows that I found interesting were Saber Marionette (which I finished watching a couple days earlier), Hana Yori Dango, and Kodomo no Omocha. Last edited by Mr. Oshawott on Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:10 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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agila61
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It depends on what you mean by "that camp". The people who act that way, that's just what they want to consume. Its why the hybrid dub/sub market for a title is bigger than the sub-only market. The people who come onto every announcement of a North American or other international release that is sub-only to make a reflex, no-thought-required "no dub, no buy" comment, they are more the ones who are despised, because most people commenting in any given release thread are people who are happy that the series got picked up, and trolling that thread as if making a "no dub, no buy" comment in every sub-only release comment thread is going to somehow change the economics of localizing anime in English language markets is annoying to the people happy to see that title get a release.
It physically feasible, but the economics would be forbidding ... taking the existing audio and adding subtitles and graphical art would be far cheaper than translating the script and recording a new English language radio drama, and at least in North America, there is not much of a market for radio drama, since the transition in the 80's when VHS took over from LP's as a way to own a piece of a favorite show (cf. the Snagglepuss and the Wizard of Oz LP from 1977). |
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katscradle
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I love audio dramas. Though, I'm probably old-fashioned. There was a public access television channel for the arts that would broadcast English radio dramas late at night in one place I lived. So I'd honestly like to think the demand for such media isn't there because people are ignorant. Though I'm sure the format and economics of a translated project is complicated. Probably too complicated.
But, I think it's wrong to offer proof for a conclusion by placing such a great emphasis on piracy = interest for any given thing. Certainly no one goes about doing such things without a purpose but, very great stuff gets ignored by the fan-translations and they don't seem to catch up until something might get exposure through legal channels. |
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