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epiphanis
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I don't have a problem with Miyazaki's America-bashing or his socialist leanings. Whatever, dude, he owes nothing to the USA and is entitled to his opinion. But some of the philosophy he has inserted into his works is pretty weird and unsavory and eaten up unskeptically by his fans.
The big thing that almost nobody seems to acknowledge is that in the ending of Nausicaa (the full manga, not the anime adaptation of the first part thereof), the supposedly wise, perfect title character effectively chooses to exterminate the entire human race. Seriously. Go back and read it again if you don't believe me. |
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Hawkmoth
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spoiler[I've had days like that.] Last edited by Hawkmoth on Thu May 08, 2014 9:19 am; edited 2 times in total |
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GATSU
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epiphanis: What can you do? The 90s sucked, particularly with overuse of "dark" endings in entertainment.
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andyos
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With respect, epiphanis, I'd suggest being a bit more careful with spoiler warnings. As for the ending of the Nausicaa manga, it was debated on this old thread: animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=148808&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15 (runs on to next page).
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Spoofer
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Yeah, thanks a ton for that spoiler. I bought the most recent release of the books a couple months ago and was planning on reading them this summer. I looked away from the original post just in time, only for my eyes to land right on the quoted spoiler in the following post.
I'll never understand how people can be so inconsiderate. |
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insert name here
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lol go look up some statistics on America's military spending. Nobody, not even Russia, comes close. |
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Hawkmoth
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Spoofer: apologies, I hate things being spoilt myself so I'm feeling slightly hypocritical now
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andyos
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Spoofer; IMO, it's not as big a spoiler as it might seem. Let's just say some aspects of the ending are open to interpretation and debate.
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Doodleboy
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spoiler[ It was either the new human race that was going to die or Nausicaa's people, the Ohmu, and everything else that needed the Sea of Corruption to survive. So Nausicaa was forced to make an impossible choice. It wasn't supposed to be a triumphant scene.] It was what I liked about the manga. Nausicaa starts off full of idealism but is forced into more and more morally dark areas. spoiler[To the point where she commandeers one of the most evil weapons in all of history (that slowly poisons her).] I guess one of the themes of the manga is that humanity has to live with the suffering and contradictions of the world.spoiler[ It's telling that by the end of the manga, it's revealed in a pure natural world without pollution Nausicaa and the rest of the humans will die out.] Man I need to reread that manga. It was good. It's been a while, I think I might've misinterpreted some things. Also would like to point out that Miyazaki denounced Marxism decades ago. He was communist when he was in his twenties. Now eh... I think he's just cynical. Last edited by Doodleboy on Thu May 08, 2014 1:14 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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TarsTarkas
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You don't see the United States purposefully destabilizing Canada and Mexico, so we can take chunks of them (at least not in this day and age). Russia on the other hand is constantly threatening, blackmailing, and destabilizing its bordering neighbors. Even Europe is afraid that Russia will turn off the gas flowing through the pipe lines. The world is full of evil leaders and their lackeys. The U.S. has made its mistakes, but it is not the font of evil. |
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Fronzel
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Does that mean that he stopped trying to do that at some point? Regardless of the content of his political commentary, this really takes it into bitter nutter territory. |
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Princess_Irene
ANN Reviewer
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From page 390:
That's from the chapter "Howl's Moving Castle;" it's an interview entitled "Feeling Responsible for the Future of Children." |
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danilo07
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What America did to Iraq was much worse then anything Russia did to Ukraine.Also in 1903 America forcefully took Guantanamo Bay from Cuba,despite the Cuban requests it hasn't been returned to them.The only reason why America wouldn't want to return those territories to Cuba,is to disturb Cuban development. There is a reason why the entire world hates America. |
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insert name here
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Yup. The US government interferes with the affairs of sovereign governments and bombs innocent people all the time. The stuff mentioned above is just the tip of the iceberg. |
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sakurahitagi
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While America has done a lot of questionable things, putting all of the blame on one country is missing the point. So many issues now transcend borders and have numerous causes, so we should be focusing on cooperating with each other to solve these issues instead of putting all of the blame on one group. |
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