Forum - View topicNEWS: New Sailor Moon's Premiere Event Excludes Men — Unless Accompanied by Women
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eragon2890
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BTW, tough I definitely think my above argument does apply - people who feel excluded won't pre-order so it's bad for profits to exclude the majority of otaku, which these baka's will soon feel in their pockets- it's off course a fact that sailor moon in particular has mostly female fans. Doesn't make this any less stupid or likely to reduce profits, but does make it logical from an organizational point of view, if not an economic one, right?
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mangaka-chan
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Not allowing men unless they're accompanied by a woman? I don't know if the publisher of Vivi is trying to say that this is meant to be an exclusive, "ladies only event" but it does come across as being rude. And I'm not even a guy and I feel this way. =_= It would be better to require a dress code than to select attendees based on gender and who they're attending the event with.
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Panzer Vor
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Tactless and poorly arranged? Yes. Misandrist? Hardly. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go get my Indiana Jones and Fuyuhiko Kuzuryuu cosplays ready. 
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samuelp
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I wonder if they would accept say, a 40 year old man and his 8 year old daughter...
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Ascalon8
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You're honestly okay with this B.S.? What if it was the other way around then. By god this is stupid. |
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Ascalon8
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Of course you wouldn't with that dumb attitude of yours. |
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EricJ2
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I'm just HOPING it's the magazine's promotional idea. Otherwise, my first reaction was, "Oh, they are seriously getting paranoid about their anime-fan stereotype prejudices where Moon/Magical-girls are concerned..." (On one thread, a UK fan talked about how some theaters are now blocking out adult viewers to kiddy films unless accompanied by kids-- I'd just assumed this was more intolerance here, from a country where they don't let everyone watch cartoons, like they do in our free lands.) |
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ikillchicken
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Hmm. Pondering who will be more obnoxious in this thread. Will it be the awful a person I disagree with politically guys trying to spin this into "Misandry is real! This is why men are the real victims of sexism! Remember this next time someone talks about female sexism so we can immediately dismiss it!" Or will it be the tone deaf social justice crowd, so immediately reactionary to said people I disagree with politically that they'll applaud this move? Because barring people from events across the board based on gender is totally a-okay. Screw anyone who just genuinely likes things that don't happen to be aimed at their gender.
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Mohawk52
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ViVi is like Cosmopolitan and what man would go to a Cosmo party on his own unless he wants to be either beaten, or eaten?
 I'm guessing it's a ploy to filter out the usual greasy, smelly, no hoper suspects who would just trash the event.
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AnimaAnimus
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It's great to know most everyone is okay with this, now I can finally open up the cafe I wanted. No blacks unless accompanied by whites, no gays unless accompanied by straights. The name will be "19th Century Taste".
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Mohawk52
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AnimaAnimus
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Sorry to hear obviously satirical comments are against forum rules. Honestly what I said isn't anymore offensive than the original topic, other than the fact that it affects different groups of people. I'm not even offended by this topic, just thought I'd point out the glaringly fallacious logic most opinions in this thread have. Also you probably shouldn't accuse someone of something without proof, you run the risk of being accused yourself. Maybe something along the lines of a troglodyte perhaps? |
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Bernkastel
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I mean, I kind of understand this from a Vivi point of view, but is that really what Sailor Moon stands for? I don't recall SM ever perpetuating gender stereotypes or discrimination like the ones running this event. It's pretty much the same as saying that only boys are allowed to a Dragon Ball event, or the Shonen-based Naruto for that matter, ignoring a part of the fanbase and keeping gender roles and stereotypes alive.
However, looking at this from another point of view, any boy who is a fan of Sailor Moon likely has several female friends, so it shouldn't be too much of a problem for them to get in. Regardless, if the event planners come right out and say that you aren't welcome without your guest, would you really want to go? I know I wouldn't. I would feel uncomfortable, nervous, I would feel unwelcome in any place like that. This isn't about people I disagree with politically and people who care about social justice, it's just about common decency. Fans who agree with this event's standpoint must have never truly understood the message behind Sailor Moon: love, equality, and being true to yourself. |
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joshjoshlol
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This event is a case where, regardless of which group is excluded and however innocuous the venue, it's a shameful and anti-progressive thing to do. It's hurtful to exclude a segment of the very base that helped to keep the brand alive, however small of a contribution that may be. To me, it reeks more of anti-otakuism than any degree of misandry, and that is certainly something that all of us should be acutely aware of and rally against. This a person I disagree with politically false flag people have thrown up has put a smokescreen on the real underlying issue, and we hurt ourselves as a group of enthusiasts when we turn a blind eye to very real and very hurtful stereotypes. |
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SquadmemberRitsu
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Although as others have said it'd do some good to get rid of certain unwanted people but that's not going to stop the rotten fujoshi from stinking up the event. Then again, do fujoshi even like Sailor Moon? |
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