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Geninja
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This person tweeted some questions at Hiroyuki Kakudou (the director), this post links to his tweets (albeit in Japanese, but it's still a more legit source). I think she makes it clear that Kakudou isn't that interested in shipping. Also that "Takeru and Hikari were supposed to end up together" came from one site with no real source and this post mentions how it's incredibly unlikely that was true. It could be kinda cheap/lazy to ignore it. And I think MANY would be unhappy with Daisuke & Co. no longer "existing." I'd be a lot more interested if this upcoming show was more of a "coming of age" thing for Taichi and Co. than it being about shipping. . . . . Oh my god. Taichi, Hikari and the others will be 10 years older than they were when they saw Parrotmon and Greymon. [/quote] Fun fact that magazine is known for spreading tabloid garbage so IDK about you but I can tell you that magazine is not reliable. I wouldn't consider it cheap/lazy to cut the widely despised epilogue and even 02 which was very weak in comparison with 01. Plot holes, plots dropped, plots rushed. You name in, 02 had it. The Dark Ocean was a very promising arc but they didn't do anything with it in the end. Daisuke and co are not the originals, there are 8 originals and only 2 carried on into the sequel. Absolutely agree that this should be a more coming of age but it should focus on the core 8. Plus "coming of age" does ideally entitle some plot developments aside from action like romance per-se. Anyways I have many hopes for the new series, only one of them deals with shipping(Takari ending up together) the rest deals with many things. Heck I love the original cast so much that I bought the PSP Digimon Adventure game even though I don't know Japanese. Just playing that game was an amazing experience. Also since Tai is 17 in this it's been at least 15 years since he and the others saw Parrotmon and Greymon fight in Highton View Terrace. I think Kari was 2 and Tai was 5. |
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Crystal
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. . . . that would have made Taichi 2 and Hikari not yet born. They wouldn't have remembered it if they were 2. The Parrotmon/Greymon fight happened 4 years earlier, in 1995. 02 is 3 years later and this show will be 3 years later (Taichi's in 8th grade in 02, probably 14). Taichi would have been about 7 and Hikari about 4 during the Parrotmon/Greymon fight. |
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rizuchan
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And here I was excited about this until I saw this thread and remembered how terrible the digimon shipping fandom is. Seriously, every time Digimon is mentioned in an article on this site there's 120 comments of people arguing about scenes that were less than 1% of the content of the show.
Newsflash: Digimon isn't and never was about love triangles between elementary school students. It's about some kids and there digimon. And I can guarantee the creators really didn't give it that much thought. I almost wish that there was zero reference to any of the established (or otherwise) couples in this new series except I know that it doesn't matter because nothing is going to change the minds of you guys after all these years. They're also never going to retcon 02 or the epilogue or anything like that. There's no reason to. Yeah, the epilogue was rather hammy (it is rather similar to the Harry Potter epilogue in that everything is wrapped up a little too nicely) but it's far enough in the future that there isn't any reason to ignore it, and the drama CDs that take place after the end of Adventure Zero Two show that there is still some room for more story. |
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Trilby1992
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Rather than not referencing the already established, or teased couples, I would like to see them end most of the arguments with the new series by clearly show who went with who in the beginning and go with it.
I sometimes wonder whether the japanese fans are that big on shipping and whether the creators are aware of the American/European fans' obsession with the couples. Anyhow, they may introduce a new Digidestined! https://twitter.com/Call_Me_A_Hero/status/495936772376129536/photo/1 |
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SolidSnake1111
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Isn't that just promotional material for the 15th anniversary event? I don't think anything but the trailer for the new series has been released since the announcement. That poster was at the event. Unless it was a hidden tease... |
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Kadmos1
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I find this to be inconsistent with his claim that Sorato was planned from the start. If he didn't care about shipping, then essentially there wouldn't be any confirmed couples at all. If they hardly interacted in Adventure 01, I find that it a stretch to call it a foreshadow of Sorato. |
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SolidSnake1111
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When I think of foreshadowing I don't think "characters must interact a lot". Lots of the kids interacted loads with each other, did that foreshadow that they all ended up married to each other? They didn't. Isn't foreshadowing subtle hints? You can do that with little interaction between characters, depending on what's being foreshadowed. Besides, I thought Sora and Yamato interacted plenty. And look what I just read. http://jippy-kandi.tumblr.com/post/70849581215/digimon-sorato-foreshadowing-evidence-sora-matt Sounds like foreshadowing to me. I want someone to write a similar thing for Kenyako now. Edit: This is realllllly long and I can't believe I read it all, but I also think it's fantastic. http://jippy-kandi.tumblr.com/post/54374894121/digimon-adventure-episode-26-sorato-sora-matt-evidence I might be a proper fan now. Last edited by SolidSnake1111 on Sun Aug 03, 2014 10:51 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Kid Ryan
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I'm honestly not surprised that they skipped Digimon X-Evolution, I never liked it much when I saw it a few years ago.
There's probably not that many people in America, since subs weren't as big back in the 90's. I don't think there were official subs for new shows until late 2000s. Unless you meant watching "raw", in which case no clue/idea.
Why would there be english subs on a Japanese Blu-Ray? I don't think they are producing this with foreign importers in mind. |
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Geninja
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Never say never, it is a strong suggestion. Going from the fact that there was not even a shot of the 02 kids nor their digimon in the trailer. There is reason to if they want to garner an audience. The epilogue was widely despised across the entire fandom for multiple reasons. Believe me they want this show to be a hit, they're gonna want to follow some things fans wanted from 15 years ago. Why else do you think they purposely didn't make the show available on youtube from the front page or their page. No they wanted to see if there's interest. Which is why the trailer will only come up if you search for it. So they do care about what we have to say. They know that fans had major problems with 02(plot holes/drops/inconsistensies) and the epilogue especially so they may be redeeming themselves with this new series in the eyes of their viewers. Anyway it's still too early to make one way or the next, by X-mas, I'm sure will have much more details then now and since it comes out in Spring 2015, by February we'll probably have pics of the kids and stuff.
Oh absolutely, just look at Naruto. However a lot of this is Kishi's fault for stringing people along. Even though it's been made pretty clear that Naruto/Sakura is what's likely gonna happen if any couple happens at all. In the case of Digimon the most popular couples in Japan/USA are Takari, Kenyuki, Sorato(mainly dubs fault that Taiora became what it did) Taiora and Takari are really big in America and Takuya/Kouji for slash.
In "The Call of Dragomon" when T.K is screaming to get to Kari Gatomon says "love" and then when T.K and Patamon jump into the portal Gatomon says "love connects two worlds"... I don't how much more foreshadowing do you need with that kind of statement. In the uncut version Takari was not subtle, the farthest thing from it. Their crests alone brought balance to the Digital World, Hope and Light, there was way more to the conversation in "Stone Soup" in the Japanese Uncut version. Believe me you want to talk foreshadowing, Takari was. Sorato very much existed but it was very subtle, Takari was anything but subtle Sorato was basically just dialogue, the kids would talk about it but that's really it. They never had there own moments so to speak and definitely not their own episode like Takari got.
He was very inconsistent, I mean just look at all the plots dropped in 02. 02 was a mess especially towards the end and very rushed. It would be wise to reboot it, there were many errors including replacing Taichi with Daisuke. I never liked Daisuke, TBH I didn't like any of the new kids aside from Ken. |
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Kadmos1
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SolidSnake111, then again, maybe this Tumblr is romanticizing the connections a little. You can have 2 characters have parallels to each other but that doesn't mean they would end up with each other. If they interact more and have moments together, I will believe said parallels.
By foreshadowing, I mean the characters having moments together. If not all the writers or VA were clued that Sorato would happen and thus not know how to portray it that way, you call that a foreshadow? It's like a rule that the lead guy should be with the lead girl. Kakudou certainly disobeyed that rule. On writers and story ideas: if they offer fitting and logical explanations I have no problems accepting it, but if it's inconsistent rubbish it can be ignored and disregarded just like an inconsistent rubbish statement from a fan or anyone else can be disregarded. |
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SolidSnake1111
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I hope the new series makes zero references to ships.
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Nonaka Machine Gun B
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Hackmon is a Digimon from an original story event from the Digimon Adventure PSP game, which is also apart of this 15th anniversary celebration. I wouldn't read much into his inclusion on the mat. Perhaps the new series may feature him in a cameo, similar to how 02 and Tamers used Ryo from the WonderSwan games. |
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#820926
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You have no clue what your talking about. They showed 02 footage during the 15th anniversary show. Kouji even played Target for the audience. If they were going to ignore 02. They would have not bothered with it all. Plus the trailer tells you Taichi is 17. That's 3 years after 02. |
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enurtsol
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Wonder if it could get enough eps and get back on TV in N. America............ Like when Pokemon became a phenomenon on N.A. airwaves, Digimon had its own though briefer limelight, so it has some business cache. It was able to capture the attention of the public beyond the usual toon fans. (Heck, I remember commercials ads promos for the 8th Digi-destined child were everywhere, even on networks that don't have anything to do with toons like ESPN channels.) People forget the fact that the English broadcasts were mere few months after the Japanese broadcasts --the fastest turnaround at the time!-- so they weren't aware ahead of time how it was gonna turn out (no day-date speedsubs distribution back then, let alone a children's show).
Meanwhile, as for the -shipping, think back on your own lives: how much things changed between elementary school and you're grown up. Who were your crushes as kids? Did you end up going out with someone else instead? It doesn't matter what was hinted or not hinted in grade school - things can change a lot growing up. (So what if someone was thought of ending with someone else in grade school - lots of things can happen between then and after - youths hook up and break up then hook up again with different people all the time. Couplings don't always work out as planned.) |
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Mr. slicer
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I personally don't think that they would be doing a retcon of 02. If they were actually concerned about fan reactions to the epilogue why would they wait 15 years to change it? Even the revival of Sherlock Holmes happened quicker than that. Unless there has been some recent spike in negative reaction I can see no reason for them deciding to do this now. Last edited by Mr. slicer on Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:32 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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