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configspace
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From here, that $232,000 is for the Animation Production alone (with $87,000 for Pre-Production). The KS-backer rewards is budgeted at $174,000. Also note that the more people pledge, the more rewards you need. In any case, like walw6pK4Alo mentioned, production committees exist for a reason. If they funded it they would also need to pay out $232,000 x 26 ($6,032,000) just for the animation production alone, plus pre-production and marketing and business negotiations and other misc. expenses. But did you know that studios and creators themselves can also be part of the production committee, *IF* they have the money to at least partially fund their own creations. Sunrise is a primary committee member for most of their creations. Of course there are strings attached. He who pays the piper calls the tune. But how is that any different from crowdfunding? They are offering a tune and you decide if you want to pay them for it. There are strings attached by backers too, as all exchanges/trades comes with strings attached. Ironically the same backers eventually resemble production committee themselves whenever dissatisfaction arises or whenever choices are offered by the project. |
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publicenemy333
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Just a note: This has surpassed the number of backers that the Little Witch Academia KS got.
It hasn't surpassed it in terms of money yet, but at the rate its going, we arent far from that happening |
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kevinx59
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Cool. I pledged about a week ago (only 25, school starting back up means I'm strapped for cash), and it was at around 380,000. Nice to know it made the rest. Shame it doesn't look like we'll make any stretch goals, but oh well.
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Great Rumbler
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They're not trying to supplant the traditional funding model, because that's always going to exist, but rather to show that there actually is a viable alternative for concepts that the traditional model isn't interested in. |
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ly000001
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TBH, I have no strong interest in the premises of either "Under the Dog" or "Kick-Heart", but I backed their Kickstarters anyway at around their middle tier pledge levels. It's wishful, and probably naive, thinking on my part, but I'm hoping Madhouse will take notice of anime projects successfully backed by crowd funding and consider using it to finance the completion of Satoshi Kon's "The Dream Machine".
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walw6pK4Alo
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It'd fit more if Under the Dog was actually applicable to that ideal, but the trailer just makes it seem like other anime I've seen and enjoyed before. Maybe I just don't see how this is so radically different and unique. |
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Guren Alchemist4
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Glad to see this happen. I was tempted to add on that art book, but man is that price steep. The next best thing is the prospect of a t-shirt. I just wish they would show us the design cause I'm rather boring when it comes to my gear. A logo and series name would be my comfort zone. I suspect they might due something more flashier, so I'll pass on that as well. I'll just have to be satisfied with the exclusive cover art and OST.
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jojothepunisher
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Now, its time to wait for a whole year.
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Kadmos1
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That is a thing that might makes me hesitant on possibly doing a pledge. |
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VanGosroth
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My happiness is completely dependent on the cost of a physical media release. If they are going to try to price this at 25-30 dollars an episode like tv anime I'd be kinda mad.
I don't care in the least bit for streams. I'd donate for a 20 dollar physical copy though. |
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walw6pK4Alo
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It's actually $60 to get the BD.
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VanGosroth
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Good thing I didn't donate then.
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configspace
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@VanGosroth
It's still streams, but $20+ is supposed to give you digital access to all future episodes, which is pretty amazing. However, the very late addition of the super-value-incentive reward comes off a bit disingenuous or used-car salesman like IMO. I changed mine from $500 to $100 since they don't need the high level pledges anymore, and not really feeling the love with the disagreeable opinions, but I still want to get the physical BD, CDs, and art. |
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Kimiko_0
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I'm surprised this project reached its funding goal. It looked for a long time like it wouldn't by a large amount.
I'm also surprised how many people are willing to give them their money. In the production committee model, the committee comes up with the money and takes all the risk, but in return get a) a say in what is created, b) the copyright to the finished product, c) all merchandise and other IP rights. In the crowdfunding model, the crowd comes up with the money and takes all the risk, but all they get in return is a one episode OVA for $60. That's pretty expensive even compared to Aniplex pricing. And the creators retain all rights. They don't have to share any creative control, they get to publish their creation however/wherever they want, they can make all the profits off merchandising, and still have all the rights to sequels or prequels or whatever. No wonder the creators are so enthusiastic about this funding model. It's pure win for them. Granted, the 'risk' here is pretty minimal with a crew this experienced (aside from the producer maybe). And it'd be kinda hard to share the IP rights among such a large crowd without organizing them into a legal entity, but still, that's quite a lot of rights y'all gave up for one expensive OVA episode. |
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sightpicture
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$5.1 million stretch goal for a 1.5 - 2 hour movie?
Wow, are they dreaming or are they just high? |
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