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NEWS: Seven Seas Starts Yuri Line


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Patachu
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:33 pm Reply with quote
JaneA wrote:
No use in turning a joyous thread into a battle over mere words.

So...let's discuss which series we would like to see picked up! Very Happy

Such as Maria-sama Ga Miteru!!!! Anime hyper


Actually I'd like to see some of the more nuanced, josei-targeted kind of yuri like Free Soul and Aoi Hana (shit! that one made me cry). I want to like the uber-melodramatic boarding-school ones, but somehow the contrived all-girl environment doesn't click with me (gave up on the Strawberry Panic anime after 6 eps).
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:34 pm Reply with quote
Ok, I'm a bit high on cold medication, so if I'm not 100% cohererent that is why.

First of all as for yaoi vs. yuri, its stupid and it needs to stop. I don't care if you have problems with how certain yaoi fans act, but it has absolutely nothing to do with yuri. So stop linking your gripes with yaoi fandom to being a yuri fan because it just makes us look bad. I think thats the consensus of most fans and this kind of attitutde at yuri boards isn't tolerated and that person will be flamed rather quickly. A lot of people who are pro-yuri and anti-yaoi seem to be male homophobes, who have problems seeing their favorite male characters paired up but are complete hypocrites when it comes to pairing up female chrarcters who aren't exactly obvious canon either. I'm not saying thats the case for everyone, but a lot of times it has those obvious overtones.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:45 pm Reply with quote
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Actually I'd like to see some of the more nuanced, josei-targeted kind of yuri


Oh, yes please. There is a shocking lack of licensed josei manga in general, and I would really love to see more of them available, in any capacity. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:45 pm Reply with quote
Patachu wrote:

Curious readers may also want to read Gynocrat's ranty rant of rantiness on "yuri"


Surprised Surprised Gee thanks Pata. It's nice to know my nutritional Meal of McRant makes it into someone's digestive system.

What I can't figure out is what all the fuss is about. So what? Yuri's been here stateside for years, with ALC. Oh, just because they don't have scary distro, they don't rate as a proper yuri licensor? Oh I get it...ALC isn't publishing the 'fanservice yuri' D'oh...the true untapped market!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:50 pm Reply with quote
J-Syxx wrote:
Ok, I'm a bit high on cold medication, so if I'm not 100% cohererent that is why.

First of all as for yaoi vs. yuri, its stupid and it needs to stop. I don't care if you have problems with how certain yaoi fans act, but it has absolutely nothing to do with yuri. So stop linking your gripes with yaoi fandom to being a yuri fan because it just makes us look bad. I think thats the consensus of most fans and this kind of attitutde at yuri boards isn't tolerated and that person will be flamed rather quickly.
Cold season's just starting up in my neck of the country, I can empathize big time. Be careful with what you buy though. Some of the medications out there have recently undergone formula changes to try and prevent them from being used to make illegal drugs. My mother found out that her cold medicine of choice for years is now detrimental to her health, knocked her out for two days. Shocked

Not sure if any of this post is aimed at me, but I'd like to respond anyway. You are right that the animosity between the fan bases needs to stop and this announcement will probably help to lessen it in the long run since part of the reason yuri fans have been so irritated is that yaoi seemed to be enjoying considerable success and exposure (dare I use the word "mainstream.") Yuri on the other hand was simply not getting anywhere near as much attention.

My problem is solely with pairings that make zero sense and the type of fan that just screams and gushes and generally acts like an insane person when two guys just shake hands or something. (This is, most unfortunately, the only type of yaoi fan I have had contact with in the real world.)

Although I don't gravitate toward yaoi series by choice, I have no problem with those who do nor am I bothered by real life homosexuality. (Or pretty much any other sex-related behavior so long as a person doesn't do anything illegal and I'm all for changing some laws.)

Personally, I'm just glad to hear of another group hitting the scene with yuri titles.

Regarding ALC: I hadn't heard of them before but I will give them some attention if they release some collected books. I avoid anthology's like the plague unless they have an author I love featured. I've had way too many bad experiences with short story anthologies.

gynocrat_rex: Aren't all yuri titles technically filled with fanservice just by being about girl-girl relationships? Wink

Seriously though, if a title has fanservice it is going to garner a bit more attention simply because it has the appeal of the story itself PLUS the appeal of the fanservice. Since some buy titles solely for their fanservice, having it can help boost a title's appeal.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:52 pm Reply with quote
gynocrat_rex wrote:
Patachu wrote:

Curious readers may also want to read Gynocrat's ranty rant of rantiness on "yuri"


Surprised Surprised Gee thanks Pata. It's nice to know my nutritional Meal of McRant makes it into someone's digestive system.

What I can't figure out is what all the fuss is about. So what? Yuri's been here stateside for years, with ALC. Oh, just because they don't have scary distro, they don't rate as a proper yuri licensor? Oh I get it...ALC isn't publishing the 'fanservice yuri' D'oh...the true untapped market!



You say ALC has been stateside for years, true, yes, but... when have you seen their stuff in bookstores? How many people, even among yuri fans, even know about them?

The problem is that ALC is very, very small and direct order only. You can't find their stuff in stores or, as far as I know, even other online retailers. Yes, they (ALC) exist, but very few people know about them. In addition, they just don't have much available and they aren't titles that people are likely to find unless they already know about the site.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:05 am Reply with quote
thank god in heaven I guess I find it ironic because i was bitching to a friend about the lack of yuri in the marketplace just last night.
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thare



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:45 am Reply with quote
HitokiriShadow wrote:
You say ALC has been stateside for years, true, yes, but... when have you seen their stuff in bookstores? How many people, even among yuri fans, even know about them?

The problem is that ALC is very, very small and direct order only. You can't find their stuff in stores or, as far as I know, even other online retailers. Yes, they (ALC) exist, but very few people know about them. In addition, they just don't have much available and they aren't titles that people are likely to find unless they already know about the site.


Actually, Yuricon/ALC has had a presence at all of the conventions I have been to in the past two years, and I have bought all currently available books at them. I have never actually ordered from them, and many fans do attend cons. Their books can be purchased through Amazon as well, I think.

As for the anthologies, I recently purchased Yuri Monogatari 3 and am quite satisfied. It's good quality stuff.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:57 am Reply with quote
Richard J. wrote:

My problem is solely with pairings that make zero sense and the type of fan that just screams and gushes and generally acts like an insane person when two guys just shake hands or something. (This is, most unfortunately, the only type of yaoi fan I have had contact with in the real world.)



Why do you even care who they ship together? What does that have to do with you? I like Ryoko/Ayeka from Tenchi Muyo. That pairing doesn't appear to make much sense based on canon. But guess what, I really don't give a s*** if other people don't like it. I don't know why certain people are so obssessed with what other people like, just focus on yourelf. If you don't like pairing threads at your FMA, Trigun, or whatever board just don't read them. You're acting like the yaoi fans have been quartered in your house like the Britsh army.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:57 am Reply with quote
J-Syxx wrote:
Richard J. wrote:

My problem is solely with pairings that make zero sense and the type of fan that just screams and gushes and generally acts like an insane person when two guys just shake hands or something. (This is, most unfortunately, the only type of yaoi fan I have had contact with in the real world.)



Why do you even care who they ship together? What does that have to do with you? I like Ryoko/Ayeka from Tenchi Muyo. That pairing doesn't appear to make much sense based on canon. But guess what, I really don't give a s*** if other people don't like it. I don't know why certain people are so obssessed with what other people like, just focus on yourelf. If you don't like pairing threads at your FMA, Trigun, or whatever board just don't read them. You're acting like the yaoi fans have been quartered in your house like the Britsh army did in the colonial days.
I was going to post a fairly long answer explaining my reasons, but I've changed my mind. I'm just going to say this: it is a personal preference issue which I don't think really has any bearing beyond being just that: a personal preference. It's just an opinion.

I am very happy that Seven Seas will be joining ALC in providing yuri titles to those who want them. I hadn't heard of ALC before and I'm very leery of anthologies but I'll give their titles a look if and when they start publishing in individual series format. (Doesn't seem like they do that yet.)

As for Seven Seas Entertainment, they will be getting a not inconsiderably ammount of my money and I'm looking forward to reading their titles, especially Strawberry Panic! which has become a guilty pleasure favorite. Assuming that they (as their representative here has stated before) do not intend to censor their manga titles, I will gladly shell out money for any and all interesting series.

In conclusion, yuri is my second favorite type of series and I'm just happy to see more of it coming over. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:43 am Reply with quote
In all of the Yuri manga I have read, Yuri is not used for pornographic works. The term "les/レズ" is used for pornographic works (Yeah, go figure. A shortened word for lesbian is used for porno). IMO Yuri is much better than BL. The stories seem much more realistic and are written , usually, from a females perspective (as opposed to BL written by women to make men more like women). Don't get me wrong here; I do like some BL manga (mostly doujinshi pairings only) but it seems as if the whole thing is about physical attraction as opposed to emotional (like Yuri).
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:36 am Reply with quote
thare wrote:
Actually, Yuricon/ALC has had a presence at all of the conventions I have been to in the past two years, and I have bought all currently available books at them. I have never actually ordered from them, and many fans do attend cons. Their books can be purchased through Amazon as well, I think.

As for the anthologies, I recently purchased Yuri Monogatari 3 and am quite satisfied. It's good quality stuff.


Interesting and good to here. What cons have you been to? I've gone to every major con in dalifornia this year, and don't recall seeing anything. Maybe I wasn't looking hard enough. I would've been more than happy to purchase their stuff.

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I don't know why certain people are so obssessed with what other people like, just focus on yourelf.


I'd consider maybe taking your own advice. I didn't see anything wrong with the opinion Richard stated in that post. He doesn't like pairing that make no sense to him and is somewhat annoyed by those who do. So in a roundabout way, he is focusing on what he likes. Why do you choose to take it so personally? Let's stop the little war here. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:55 am Reply with quote
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Aren't all yuri titles technically filled with fanservice just by being about girl-girl relationships?


I guess so, if you fetishize same-sex relationships. But if you're someone who is gay/lesbian and might just want to read a comic featuring the same thing that isn't purely sexual, then no, it's not fan service. That's the point. Yuri isn't pure fanserve--

ALC has always been a con presence. And, in nearly all Yuri coms, you can find the ALC link...it's likely because ALC focuses or original material in English as well... My point was, the press release is a tad misleading--S7 isn't the first in Yuri manga stateside. Just because you're bigger, with better distribution, doesn't change the fact that someone was doing before you, and that was my point about all this fuss.

Night all.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:25 am Reply with quote
Patachu wrote:
JaneA wrote:
No use in turning a joyous thread into a battle over mere words.

So...let's discuss which series we would like to see picked up! Very Happy

Such as Maria-sama Ga Miteru!!!! Anime hyper


Actually I'd like to see some of the more nuanced, josei-targeted kind of yuri like Free Soul and Aoi Hana (shit! that one made me cry). I want to like the uber-melodramatic boarding-school ones, but somehow the contrived all-girl environment doesn't click with me (gave up on the Strawberry Panic anime after 6 eps).


Sounds like we have the same mindset. I'll be happy about Seven Seas as long as they bring over yuri that is made for (and by) women, until then, long live ALC and Erica (I still remember her from alt.fan.sailor-moon...very highly admired her). Which reminds me, I need to persuse the ALC website again. Last time I was there, I had no money at all. Now I can actually buy manga, so it's time to head back and start looking.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:28 am Reply with quote
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You say ALC has been stateside for years, true, yes, but... when have you seen their stuff in bookstores? How many people, even among yuri fans, even know about them?

The problem is that ALC is very, very small and direct order only. You can't find their stuff in stores or, as far as I know, even other online retailers. Yes, they (ALC) exist, but very few people know about them. In addition, they just don't have much available and they aren't titles that people are likely to find unless they already know about the site.


ALC has had distribution to major chain book stores, comic book stores and GLBT stores for over a year now.

You can find our books in Borders and Barnes and Noble, along with all the other manga. Smile

We put out press releases - which feature here on ANN just like any other - and we do events all over the world. We advertisie in a variety of ways. Frankly, other than knocking door to door, there's not much more we can do to be visible! Smile

Cheers,

Erica

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