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DuskyPredator
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:14 pm Reply with quote
And now I have finished Chronos Rulers with its 13th episode, which I did a little rant about last week. I really do not like this show, and it is for a few core reasons.

It was like in the first episode that I found myself hating one of the main characters, Victor, for being just a shitty person. Despite being the supposed wise character who always turns things around, in just the first episode he screwed up from messing around and got someone killed who they could have saved, and yet he constantly makes fun of the serious Kiri. The things he makes fun of are either him borderline bullying, or things that he has had no luxury of because of Victor himself, because the end of the first episode reveals that spoiler[Victor is his father]. And other characters are not much better, with the likes of Mina who also constantly belittles Kiri, making him to be a nuisance, while offhand saying she is his mother, regardless of what evidence there would be against, and that it would also mean she would have abandoned him. And yet spoiler[the end of the season says that the totally unconvincing claim that she is his mother is actually correct, that she indeed left Kiri to look after his own backwards time turning father who would soon forget raising his son or something], and the first thing she does is tell him to get lost. A far flung from the memories he puts up. It is really ironic that the last arc is about family, when Kiri's is horrible, who would try to claim they are good because they happen to save his life for him putting it in danger because of them.

And the last main character does not get away, with Blaze, who's horrid character trait is that he wants to be a villain, that he would do terrible stuff, yet gets totally convinced by sob stories. The show tries to play it off as cute and stuff, but feels totally unconvincing, have no sympathy for his own supposed backstory, still feels like a terrible person, with a flimsy character base and totally unreliable. Getting a little bit away from characters, but next into the rules of this show, because sometimes it likes to set up little details like Kiri having water on him, but a lot of the times the rules actually feel pretty inconsistent, that it can be pretty bullshit to whatever it wants to make happen, and honestly half as well thought out as it thinks it is. Sets up rules that time control can only be used on objects, and somehow water, air, and explosions count as objects (see what I said about supposed liquid that dissolves any "object"). But maybe worth saying the totally unnecessary theme of Victor, where he uses cards, and puts on the persona of being a gambler, but it is all window dressing and is never like we see him gamble with cards. He just seems to be able to randomly pull cards out of his butt, where he apparently has a stupid amount on him as if that and flirting makes him a super gambler. Or really just so the creator can fit cards into rest of series.

It is like super dumb with terrible character interaction, and tries to act all edgy. I am not even getting into school girl uniform man. Which I think partially contributed this kind of hard understanding the setting with Japanese school girl uniform making a cameo. It does kind of have a nice look to it, but as you look harder it just kind of loses whatever style points it had, except I would say a few times of CG. And nothing really to say about other elements like music, I am just generally really happy to finally be done with this. A rating of Bad (2/10), really not recommended unless you can really turn you brain off and not care about the plot and logic holes, just enjoying the nice looking characters. Although I will make mention now of how stupid I found Victor in how he wears his jacket off his should, it can't be comfortable or for any practical purpose, and kept making me wish I could go in and make him wear it properly.
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Gina Szanboti



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:21 pm Reply with quote
Just got around to watching SAO Ordinal Scale. I actually liked it a lot, even though, not surprisingly, it didn't make a lick of sense. It was still fun to watch Kirito bumble around, and the main villains weren't face-lickingly evil which was a nice change. I was wondering why they sidelined Asuna for the final battle, but happily she was having none of that and joined in triumphantly.

Probably the biggest plot hole was why they didn't just copy the data instead of transferring it. No one would even have noticed, or cared if they did notice. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Akane the Catgirl



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:08 pm Reply with quote
Progress Report:

First, I'm sorry if I haven't been doing much Akane Analyzes lately. I've been battling with my mental illnesses, and it's gotten bad enough that I've decided to take medication for it. I just don't have a lot of energy to do much writing these days. So if you've been wondering where I've been, now you know. (Also, please leave comments; nobody has.)

In the meantime, I've been watching Jojo's on Toonami and My Hero Academia on Funimation's website. They're both fun shows, and I'm glad I can watch them.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:32 pm Reply with quote
Gina Szanboti wrote:
Just got around to watching SAO Ordinal Scale. I actually liked it a lot, even though, not surprisingly, it didn't make a lick of sense. It was still fun to watch Kirito bumble around


I love that he despises REAL MOVEMENT AND EXERCISE because relatable. Anime hyper

(omg that's right; I have to order my copy!! wow)

Edit:

Just got back from No Game No Life Zero and it was aweeeesome ♪
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louis6578



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:03 pm Reply with quote
Gina Szanboti wrote:
Just got around to watching SAO Ordinal Scale. I actually liked it a lot, even though, not surprisingly, it didn't make a lick of sense. It was still fun to watch Kirito bumble around, and the main villains weren't face-lickingly evil which was a nice change. I was wondering why they sidelined Asuna for the final battle, but happily she was having none of that and joined in triumphantly.

Probably the biggest plot hole was why they didn't just copy the data instead of transferring it. No one would even have noticed, or cared if they did notice. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


The plot point of Kirito being too fat is pretty amusing. I generally liked the movie more than the series, but there are two things that bothered me. One was pretty minor.

1. The cast is eating. The technology gives them all something to eat. Lisbeth is then told by this technology that she can't eat that cake or it'll bring her over her recommended calorie intake or whatever. Okay. Why give her the cake if you're just gonna say she can't eat it? :\ I know this is supposed to be a HILARIOUS moment, but that's a pretty big leap in logic for a joke.

2. Kirito seems like he'd be on board with AR more than anyone. I mean, the single most interesting thing about his character is his obsession with making real life and virtual life mix together. It's heavily implied that he's the one who made the stuff we see in Accel World. So then, why is he so against Augmented Reality? That seems to be a pretty big step up toward his goal. Well, the meta-reason is that Kirito is perfect and so he's the one who should be "right all along" about this villainous Augmented Reality being nothing but trouble. But the in-universe reasons I can think of are just simple, petty things like Kirito doesn't like to exercise (which shouldn't even be true if he's the Kendo expert that the show claims he is).

Overall, I give it a solid recommendation of 5/10. Just above what I rate the original season, but not quite as high as Mother's Rosario got the second season to, which is a 6/10.
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Mandragoras



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:14 pm Reply with quote
The tiny informal anime club I'm in did Baccano! recently, a show which I've started and stopped a truly implausible number of times, and I'm happy to learn that it really was worth it. The OVA ending is perhaps less conclusive than the TV ending (and those episodes are a biiiit slow), but in a lot of ways it feels more thematically cogent. Fun show. Uplifting, even.
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louis6578



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:21 pm Reply with quote
Mandragoras wrote:
The tiny informal anime club I'm in did Baccano! recently, a show which I've started and stopped a truly implausible number of times, and I'm happy to learn that it really was worth it. The OVA ending is perhaps less conclusive than the TV ending (and those episodes are a biiiit slow), but in a lot of ways it feels more thematically cogent. Fun show. Uplifting, even.


A lot of people think that the OVAs were meant to set up a second season that never came. Sadly, we got Durarara through to the conclusion instead despite Baccano being the better one.
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Mandragoras



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:25 pm Reply with quote
louis6578 wrote:
A lot of people think that the OVAs were meant to set up a second season that never came. Sadly, we got Durarara through to the conclusion instead despite Baccano being the better one.

It didn't do terribly well in Japan, and if I'm not mistaken Durarara!! was only seen through to completion as a sort of passion project despite doing a fair bit better. That said, if the later novels ever do come to animation, I'll be rather happy, even if it is a tad implausible.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:36 pm Reply with quote
DRRR also has an end while Baccano's still on-going and the last 'arc' doesn't seem even close to being an end, even though it's been going for 5 volumes.

I like both anyway.

Been watching Kemonozume. Still amazed at how Yuasa can make the most unappealing of character designs work well animated.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:33 am Reply with quote
killjoy_the wrote:
DRRR also has an end while Baccano's still on-going and the last 'arc' doesn't seem even close to being an end, even though it's been going for 5 volumes.

I like both anyway.

Been watching Kemonozume. Still amazed at how Yuasa can make the most unappealing of character designs work well animated.


I've read up on some things that happen in the novels. I feel like they could've picked carefully and gotten a couple more arcs out of a season 2 in order to have a better ending. A lot of anime don't get as far as the manga, but have serviceable stopping points.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:08 am Reply with quote
Not generally going to use the thread to talk about first episodes of the new season, but thought I might talk about the reaction I had to one specific show, EVIL OR LIVE. Which actually disturbed me, not for being graphic, or the production values which are to be expected from its studio. But what has got me is how much it sounds like recounts that I have read about actual troubled teen facilities, that does not make it some silly premise, but something not to make a joke of.

http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1680-5-things-i-learned-escaping-troubled-teens-facility.html
http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-2188-my-parents-paid-rehab-camp-to-abuse-me-5-dark-realities.html
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:20 am Reply with quote
Not what I've been "watching" per say, but since this is the place to talk about our thoughts on things, I was just changing some of my rankings on my ANN anime list. I previously tried to make it a sort of "objective quality" or "how likely am I to recommend this to a stranger regardless of my own tastes." Now I am purely ranking these by how much the anime meant to me personally and how much enjoyment I got out of them. I will list the anime, previous ranking, new ranking, and briefly summarize any thoughts on why I might've changed them.

91 Days - Very Good---->Decent.

I dunno why I rated it higher to begin with. The first episode was strong and the last few episodes were great, but the majority of these were weirdly generic. What's more, it did that annoying thing where it tries to make the main character look SUPER intelligent and cunning by subtly making his opponents cocky and stupid in hopes that the audience won't notice that he's just doing what any sane person would do against these morons. Well, I did notice and I felt a little bored watching him. It's a real shame because I LOVE these cathartic revenge stories about a super cunning, charismatic rich dude overthrowing corrupt jerks who wronged him severely. It's why I rated Gankutsuou a MASTERPIECE despite its clear flaws in its climax and why I love Black Butler. But yeah, bottom line, 91 Days was an alright show, but I feel like I convinced myself that I liked it more than I really did.

Air - Not Really Good----> Decent

Originally I thought the ending brought it up a few points, but not enough to justify the rest of the show being a slog. Now, however, I'm able to better appreciate a MASTERFULLY EMOTIONAL ending topping off a weird, confused moe melodrama with only 3 characters worth remembering. If we were judging from only the final 3 episodes, this might be some 10/10 stuff here.

Akira - Decent---->Not Really Good.

Not much to say here. I just don't like the Akira movie and think it tries to cram too much into itself. Thinking back, I only rated it decent because the animation was great, but I don't care about that stuff. Just because a movie is competent in a technical area doesn't mean it made me like it more.

Another - Good--->So-So

I think the impact of how cool and over the top the deaths are started sinking in. But so did the fact that the rest of the show is boring.

Attack on Titan (both seasons) Very Good--->Good

Not much to say here. I've just raised my standards after seeing what the decade of 2010s has offered since 2013.

Bleach - Weak---->So-So

The Soul Society arc is one of the best rescue arcs ever, and even the bad arcs have a few great characters (Ulquiorra and Grimmjow come to mind). It's worth way more than just a 3/10 for all the right it does.

Bokurano - Good--->Weak

This is one of the worst adaptations of a great manga that I've ever seen. The things it changes are really stupid and degrading to the original material (a forced romance shows up halfway through the episode where one of the individuals in the relationship dies simply for dramatic effect, a sympathetic jerk with a heart of gold type character in the manga is adapted to be a PURE villain in this one who seems to just get off on the emotional trauma that people go through when they realize that death is closing in on them, and worst of all, the little touches in the earlier chapters of the manga that made it more emotionally resonate are ABSENT from the initial episodes). God damn was I generous by giving it a 7/10. I think I was just drunk off the feeling of its OP and EDs. They're incredibly good, the lyrics are beautifully sad (especially Uninstall, the show's only OP) and if you understand the lyrics or have a subtitled version that translates the songs, you might actually cry! The BGM is all terrible and generic though.

Boy and the Beast - Very Good---> Good.

No real deep reason here. I liked it, but I didn't personally attach to a lot of it like I wanted to.

Casshern Sins - Not Really Good---> So-So

There's a lot to love about this show. I just didn't see it the first time around.

Cowboy Bebop: The Movie - Excellent---> Very Good.

A lot of plot conveniences happen here that feel too good and out of place for the rest of the series.
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Gina Szanboti



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:40 am Reply with quote
louis6578 wrote:
Cowboy Bebop: The Movie - Excellent---> Very Good.

A lot of plot conveniences happen here that feel too good and out of place for the rest of the series.

For example? I've been watching it on Adult Swim without the butchering they used to do on it, and I'm still amazed at how well it holds up after all these years. Aspect ratio aside, it looks gorgeous. The dub is great (second only to FLCL), the music couldn't be better, and just the whole ambience of it is unique.

And after all that, I just realized you were talking about the movie, so never mind. I still wanted to say all that about the series, so I'll leave it anyway. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:48 am Reply with quote
Considering that this post was a mistake and a misread, I was going to ignore it, but one damning piece of bad taste was glaring me right in the face.

Gina Szanboti wrote:
The dub is great (second only to FLCL),


Dammit! What kind of a world do we live in!?
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Gina Szanboti



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 4:47 am Reply with quote
What. I don't know if your beef is with the plot, script or you don't have ears, but every single actor in the series brought their A game to that work. There are only 4 other series I'd put in its tier as far as voice-acting. But it is a matter of taste, so I don't want to start a dub war here.
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