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Angel M Cazares
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Physical releases are very important to me. The reason why I don't usually makes a fuss about R1 companies messing physical releases is because most of them are cheaply priced. Companies take financial risks licensing, distributing and dubbing anime content. Because of that paying $40-50 for 12 episodes is a fantastic deal; I simply cannot fault them much about defective releases because they ask little money for them. On the other hand, when non price-friendly companies like Aniplex USA and Ponycan USA make mistakes with their physical releases (like PCUSA with Sound! Euphonium), I will not excuse them because if I am paying up to 4 times of what Funimation and Sentai charge, I expect near perfect products. |
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lem
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Overall I agree with you and I wish there were more fans just like you. At least 320 million more that are happy to support what they love. But in the real world there are going to be fans that are extremely smart with their money and not be okay with that. Think "A fool and his money..." here because sure $40-50 could be regarded as so much chump change to some, but for just as many others, it's also just enough to make ends meet. "Cheaply priced" all depends on where one is with their $$ situation. Cheap as in shoddy workmanship isn't the same as a lower priced alternative. One brings on the anger and the other "oh hells yeah, Score! reaction. The latter can be accomplished it just takes giving a shit about it and following through with the required effort (See Exhibit R and D: Rightstuf! and Discotek kick some serious ass with this.) And just so you know I purposely left out those "dirty" A and P words in that mess I rattled off to keep this thread Funi. And Fun. |
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Alan45
 Village Elder Posts: 9839 Location: Virginia |
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I suspect that part of the problem is that it is seriously unlikely that Funimation is doing any of the actual manufacturing inhouse. Once the authoring is done, you have the actual physical manufacture of the disks, the printing of the cover inserts and any booklets or other inserts, the construction of the chipboard boxes, the assembly of the entire package and the shipment to the retailers. This could entail anywhere from a couple to several different independent businesses.
Granted other companies named manage to maintain quality control of the process, but Funimation if putting out multiple titles each month while the others are unlikely to put out more than a single chipboard box a quarter. Obviously Funimation has a QC problem with the company assembling the boxes. However, they also charge less of a premium for such boxes. Lately Sentai has used chipboard only on collector editions with an almost Japanese premium cost. The worst part of that is that is that is the only way to get the Bluray version. Those things are real space wasters also. |
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One-Eye
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I think lem and Alan45 bring up good points. However, I would add to those that imho Funi probably has several issues going on.
One, I think they are juggling many things at once and maybe stretched a little thin. Regular dubs, translations, simuldubs, streaming service, television channel, authoring, packaging, social media, web store, Kickstarters, conventions, etc, etc. I'm reminded when Sentai had an issue for awhile where they were licensing tons of shows and putting out as many dubs as fast as they could. The speed was killing their quality and Zac and Justin were regularly critical on ANNCast about it. Similarly, I think the jugglingof many different processes impacting Funi's quality is a possibility. Two, sometimes the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. I recall Funi being on ANNCast once and being asked why they didn't dub The Dawn that was included on their Hellsing Ultimate release. They had no idea that it was on there. Furthermore, that it wasn't dubbed tells you that maybe the people in charge of the release didn't even know it was on there (not to mention them releasing an LE box that could only hold the first 2 parts, but not the third. Did no one tell them that there was another part coming down the road?  ).
To be fair, I think Funi does try to listen and cater to their fans (especially when they scream). They even maybe on occasion bent over backwards, plus I'm really grateful to them for putting out so many dubs. However, they keep wasting good will with stuff like this (well, at least mine).
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WTK
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via Funimation Shop & TRSI:
Aquarion Logos, Part 2 (Blu-ray / DVD Combo) - 325 minutes - $64.98 - 1/10/17 - http://shop.funimation.com/Shop/ShopProductDetail.ss?itemid=290867
Fairy Tail: Collection 6 (Blu-ray / DVD Combo) - 550 minutes - $54.98 - 1/17/17 - http://shop.funimation.com/Shop/ShopProductDetail.ss?itemid=291167
GARO - CRIMSON MOON, Part 1 (Blu-ray / DVD Combo) - 300 minutes - $64.98 - 1/24/17 - http://shop.funimation.com/Shop/ShopProductDetail.ss?itemid=290869
Shomin Sample: Complete Collection (Blu-ray / DVD Combo) - 300 minutes - $64.98 - 1/31/17 - http://shop.funimation.com/Shop/ShopProductDetail.ss?itemid=290870
------ Rurouni Kenshin, Part 3: The Legend Ends (DVD) (live-action) - 134 minutes - $29.98 - 1/3/17 - http://shop.funimation.com/Shop/ShopProductDetail.ss?itemid=290663 Rurouni Kenshin, Part 3: The Legend Ends (Blu-ray / DVD Combo) (live-action) - 134 minutes - $34.98 - 1/3/17 - http://shop.funimation.com/Shop/ShopProductDetail.ss?itemid=290662
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Alan45
Village Elder Posts: 9839 Location: Virginia |
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I don't think any NA company ever did. Keep in mind that it was major news when ADV and Funimation added in house dubbing. My point was that all these disk sets are being assembled and shipped from a location remote from Funimation. They can't just walk to the warehouse downstairs and randomly check the quality of the chipboard boxes they send out. I'm sure that they do some QC on their product, both on the disks and on the packaging. However, if the company producing the boxes sends them pristine examples, they will not see the majority of what is shipped. It may be something as simple as the box company occasionally assigning a set to the assembly team that doesn't care about quality. Further the more complicated the packaging the greater the chance of error. Given Funimations output of physical media it would take a small army of QC people at the location (or more likely locations) where the sets were assembled and shipped. |
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One-Eye
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In case anybody missed it. Looks like ANN is reporting on front page that Funi has acknowledged audio issue with Code Geass BDs and I guess are looking for feedback from customers? It doesn't say anything about disc replacement just yet.
Actually, I was kind of agreeing with you and also I felt that the sheer quantity of stuff that they do probably affects ability to do good QC. However, there is also an audio issue, which maybe hard to catch and may not bother some fans as much, but that is in-house not where the discs are replicated. I don't think anybody in the industry has the budget or manpower to keep on top of everything. Mistakes are going to happen, but the important thing is to learn and try to minimize the occurrence of mistakes. However, this situation alongside others is going to appear like a pattern of shaky QC (sometimes good, sometimes ok, and at times not so good) which can affect their reputation and customers trust (meaning people are going to be more liable to fly off the handle in the future than accept it as a one-off). |
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Blood-
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With all due respect to my esteemed colleague, Alan45, the idea that just because a product isn't manufactured onsite it is therefore too hard to have effective QC is pure bunk. Of course somebody at Funi should be examining random samples of any title before they hit the market. Whether you can wander down to the factory floor or have it shipped to your office, what's the difference? Mistakes are going to happen. It's up to Funi to make sure it is doing business with competent suppliers, to test the product itself and to act swiftly when a mistake is made. The reality, however, is that anime publishers probably don't have the resources to ensure they have sufficient staff devoted to QC issues. They are bare to the bone with respect to staffing, I'm sure.
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Alan45
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Oh, I agree with you. QC is always possible. However, it can't be limited to a few examples sent by the outsourced company. There would have to be people checking the output of all locations randomly, including apparently the packaging. That means hiring and training out based employees. Employees and training cost money or you have to take the time to send existing employees to check things. Obviously Funimation has been relying on misplaced trust. Really good QC would probably raise the cost of their shows significantly. |
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Blood-
Bargain Hunter Posts: 23769 |
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I want muh cheap animu! QC be damned!
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Alan45
Village Elder Posts: 9839 Location: Virginia |
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I rather thought that might be the case. You are likely not alone in this.
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One-Eye
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Amazon seems to have found a few more sets of Cowboy Bebop Limited Edition Amazon Exclusive. I doubt this is a reprint, so it will probably go out of stock again.
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geishageek
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Thanks One-Eye. I kicked myself for missing that release when it first dropped so now I am REALLY happy to see more copies available. Plus I had Amazon Rewards Points saved up so it was like getting it for free!
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One-Eye
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No problem! And good for you that you could use points towards it. 
Sharing info is what the retail forum is for. I already have a set so might as well let other people know that might have missed it the first time. |
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WTK
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via Funimation Shop & TRSI:
Assassination Classroom: Season 2, Part 1 (Blu-ray / DVD Combo) - 325 minutes - $64.98 - 2/21/17 - http://shop.funimation.com/Shop/ShopProductDetail.ss?itemid=296384 D-FRAG!: Complete Collection (Blu-ray / DVD Combo) (S.A.V.E. Edition) - 300 minutes - $29.98 - 2/7/17 - http://shop.funimation.com/Shop/ShopProductDetail.ss?itemid=293872
Danganronpa the Animated Series: Complete Collection (Blu-ray / DVD Combo) (S.A.V.E. Edition) - 325 minutes - $29.98 - 2/7/17 - http://shop.funimation.com/Shop/ShopProductDetail.ss?itemid=293971
Freezing Vibration: Complete Collection (Blu-ray / DVD Combo) (Anime Classics) - 300 minutes - $39.98 - 2/21/17 - http://shop.funimation.com/Shop/ShopProductDetail.ss?itemid=296477
Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence (DVD) - 100 minutes - $29.98 - 2/7/17 - http://shop.funimation.com/Shop/ShopProductDetail.ss?itemid=293875
Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence (Blu-ray / DVD Combo) - 100 minutes - $34.98 - 2/7/17 - http://shop.funimation.com/Shop/ShopProductDetail.ss?itemid=293873
Nichijou - My Ordinary Life: Complete Collection (Blu-ray / DVD Combo) - 650 minutes - $69.98 - 2/7/17 - http://shop.funimation.com/Shop/ShopProductDetail.ss?itemid=293972
Nobunagun: Complete Collection (Blu-ray / DVD Combo) (S.A.V.E. Edition) - 325 minutes - $29.98 - 2/14/17 - http://shop.funimation.com/Shop/ShopProductDetail.ss?itemid=296378
Noragami Aragoto: Complete Collection (Blu-ray / DVD Combo) - 325 minutes - $64.98 - 2/21/17 - http://shop.funimation.com/Shop/ShopProductDetail.ss?itemid=296386 Noragami Aragoto: Complete Collection (Blu-ray / DVD Combo LE) - 325 minutes - $84.98 - 2/21/17 - http://shop.funimation.com/Shop/ShopProductDetail.ss?itemid=296385
One Piece: Collection 18 - 600 minutes - $34.98 - 2/14/17 - http://shop.funimation.com/Shop/ShopProductDetail.ss?itemid=296380
Red Data Girl: Complete Collection (S.A.V.E. Edition) - 300 minutes - $24.98 - 2/28/17 - http://shop.funimation.com/Shop/ShopProductDetail.ss?itemid=296390
Scrapped Princess: Complete Collection (Blu-ray / DVD Combo) - 600 minutes - $64.98 - 2/28/17 - http://shop.funimation.com/Shop/ShopProductDetail.ss?itemid=296391 The Betrayal Knows My Name: Complete Collection - 600 minutes - $59.98 - 2/28/17 - http://shop.funimation.com/Shop/ShopProductDetail.ss?itemid=296389
The Mystic Archives of Dantalian: Complete Collection - 300 minutes - $39.98 - 2/14/17 - http://shop.funimation.com/Shop/ShopProductDetail.ss?itemid=296377
Ultimate Otaku Teacher, Part 2 (Blu-ray / DVD Combo) - 300 minutes - $64.98 - 2/21/17 - http://shop.funimation.com/Shop/ShopProductDetail.ss?itemid=296387 Unbreakable Machine-Doll: Complete Collection (Blu-ray / DVD Combo) (S.A.V.E. Edition) - 300 minutes - $29.98 - 2/21/17 - http://shop.funimation.com/Shop/ShopProductDetail.ss?itemid=296388
Wolf's Rain: Complete Collection (Blu-ray / DVD Combo) - 750 minutes - $64.98 - 2/7/17 - http://shop.funimation.com/Shop/ShopProductDetail.ss?itemid=290871
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