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Metalraptor
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Via_01, that's a good point, I forgot about the boar.
Even if it's a small part, it could be enough to boost her recognition. |
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HeeroTX
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You know what'd be hilarious (at least to me), if they do something with the boar and give 'zuka that voice role and through some really bizarre turn of events the mangaka (while being "lukewarm" on the whole effort from the anime studio) LOVES zuka as the boar, either because he was AT one of her shows in the suit or he just has some weird reason to become her fan. Regarding Hiraoka, one thing that may be relevant. Just from personal experience in business, there may be an underlying reason why most of the PAs are women. Women (IMO) make really good project managers because they do a better job of "empathizing" with the various people they need to bring together. I think there was an interesting contrast between Aoi mediating to make sure it was ok to have Hiraoka continue working as a PA and Hiraoka (in his past) just focusing on the result. As a guy, I can say that it is incredibly frustrating to note that sometimes in your profession it ISN'T always about solving the problem, sometimes it is about fostering understanding between people. I don't think it's a coincidence that in Shirobako the "best" PAs are women and the "worst" are men. But to use a more specific explanation, I also don't think it's a coincidence that Aoi is still more optimistic (and better at her job) than Hiraoka and their dreams are: "to make anime with my friends", "to make the greatest anime ever", respectively. One is focused on the people they work with and the other is focused on the product. |
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Rogueywon
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The "Ubundows" logo on Hiroaka's PC's shutdown screen made me genuinely laugh out loud.
Not often you get a Linux joke in anime. Though actually not unprecedented either, now that I think about it. |
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yuna49
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My guess is that Honda-san was pretty effective as a PA before he was promoted. And early in the series wasn't there a male PA who left because he got a better position elsewhere? MusAni seemed unhappy to see him leave. |
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mangamuscle
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Yeah, whether male or female, Shirobako shows how important is the work of PA, who unlike the creatives (inbetweeners, key animators, voice actors, writers, directors) will never be invited to any kind of convention nor win any kind of award for their work, but they work just as hard and are just as important. It |
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Rogueywon
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The PA role as seen in Shirobako is basically the same as the "project support" role in modern project-based workplaces, with the production desk role being the "project/programme manager". Indeed, the organisational structure in Shirobako, with a senior management team at the top, a project team working directly to them, and a number of in-house and contracted specialist teams being "matrix managed" by the project team (although it's quite normal for leading specialists to be more senior and better paid than the project team). You'll see structures like that in a huge range of private and public sector organisations (and I work in one myself right now, essentially as the head of an in-house specialist team). The project team's role is an important one and - as you say - one that doesn't receive much recognition or love. Indeed, it's easy for the team to end up as a lightning rod for frustrations and criticisms (as they are the ones who need to hassle people about deadlines, tell them about delays elsewhere that are going to affect them and otherwise be the bearer of bad news and unwanted distractions). People skills are an absolute must for working in a project team (much more so than knowing how to use software tools and the like, which can be learned quite quickly) and Hiroaka and (to a lesser extent) Taro demonstrate what can happen when those people skills aren't there. I've known good and bad project managers over the years of both sexes, including several "Taros" and a couple of "Hiroakas". There's a lot in Shirobako that is reflective of white-collar workplaces in general - not just the anime industry. |
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mangamuscle
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I think we can start saying that is one of the reasons Shirobako (and Cool-headed Hoozuki) are so popular is because their protagonist work as self inserts for so many salary (wo)man that do their work without never receiving any compliment for their efforts. |
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Via_01
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...though Hozuki IS really well known around hell for being the most efficient (and ruthless) demon around. But I know what you mean, and I agree that it may be the case. |
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Yadilie
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I totally needed this episode after watching Your Lie In April. Really excited to see how the final episode is going to go.
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HeeroTX
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It was totally obvious and pretty cliched, but I gotta admit, I cried when Shizuka showed up to voice Lucy. I know everyone expected all the girls to work on Third Girls Aerial Squad once Diesel came on board, but there's been such a "good" job of showing Shizuka's struggle with her passion, that it really was incredibly cathartic to see her get a win.
It was also pretty interesting to hear the differences in how the director and the creator view the series. Especially once the creator explained his creative vision hearing the director agree that the original idea didn't mesh with that at all. |
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Via_01
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First half: laughing my ass off.
Second half: OH MY GOD THE FEELS. That's the only thing I can say about this chapter. |
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Angel M Cazares
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Episode 23 grade: A+
I agree with Rose; this might be the best episode of the series. I had a blast watching it. And yes, this episode perfectly combines the best elements of Shirobako. |
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Cyclone1993
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I'm with everyone else, this was a fantastic episode. It was inspirational, funny, informative, and absolutely heartwarming which is just about everything I could ask for from an anime. If the next episode ends this well, it will absolutely be worth a purchase!
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bobob101
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Ultimately, this episode proves one important thing about Shirobako: as long as you have passion for your work, you aren't an asshole. Even though the animation team and the creator didn't see eye to eye at first, they both had passion for their works and managed to overcome their different visions. Even Hiraoka, who did his darnedest to make the audience hate him, has been humanized through his passion for anime.
And more than a few tears came from me when Zuka came and did her bit. Bravo Shirobako, Bravo! |
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Barbobot
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I was literally cheering at my screen when it became obvious they'd choose Zuka to voice Lucy in the show. That girl really needed a mark in the win column after we last saw her drinking alone in the dark. There were actually many moments where I was cheering along this episode cause it kept you so engaged the whole time, like when that stupid editor finally got what's been coming to him for 10 or so episodes.
I really hoping this show ends up getting picked up by NISA cause I'd buy it right away. |
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