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EP. REVIEW: Yūki Yūna wa Yūsha de Aru

Actar wrote:

Even the return of their sacrifices was foreshadowed in the beach episode.

In what way in form was it foreshadowed that the faeries could apparently just disappear and thus free the girls from their forced servitude?

And I especially don't get how if Shinju can just relieve Heroes from duty then why didn't he do so with Sonoko? What was the purpose of keeping her around?

Actar wrote:

However, giving it some time and thinking it over, I actually believe that the series and ending is much smarter than what we're giving it credit for. Everything was foreshadowed and makes sense within the context of the universe that they have built. Even the return of their sacrifices was foreshadowed in the beach episode.

Okay cool then, so I can go to you for answers since apparently you have realized how the writers didn't pull this garbage ending out of their behind. In what way in form was it foreshadowed that the faeries could apparently just disappear and thus free the girls from their forced servitude?

Because from my eye, that just came out of nowhere for no reason without explanation. But hey, if you've think you can explain it to me so that it was within the boundaries of what the show had laid out then I am all ears to be informed.

And so the reason why Yuuna and co. are not the 'safeguard' now is... ?

I'd assume that the gang would be too old to take on the role as heroes.

Hey, it's fine if you don't like the show or my opinion, but you don't need to be a dick about it, thank you very much. Did you even read the rest of the comment?

It's a positive plot twist. The faeries didn't just disappear, the Shinju freed them. Nothing mentioned that they couldn't be freed. We, just like the girls, were just misled into thinking that they were bound forever. I assume that Tougou actions caused a massive dent in the Vertex forces (that big one was an amalgam of a ton of them) and put their invasion on hold.

So, keeping in mind that Shinju apparently can "free" a Hero from duty at any time and return their body to its functioning form

If somebody tells me that they can explain something that seemed like convenient plot contrived bullshit to me then of course I'm going to ask them to explain.

Now, let's tackle your argument for a second. Sonoko went mankai over 20 times and thus each time sacrificed some part of her being. We see her in a bed completely bandaged from head to toe. Yuuna and co. were obviously doing well on their own vanquishing the the vertex forces. So, keeping in mind that Shinju apparently can "free" a Hero from duty at any time and return their body to its functioning form, to what purpose is it to leave Sonoko as we saw her in the series and not simply "free" her from her service?

Because, again, I may be speaking out of line due to my admittance of not seeing some grand blueprint as you have seen through foreshadowing, but that seems to me to be the series completely forgoing its established principles and rules and instead, shall we say, using the power of (a) god to force a conclusion that, in my opinion, goes contrary of everything that had been set up regarding Heroes and their permanence in the fight -> mankai -> sacrifice -> fight loop that was clearly made known throughout the duration of the series.

Then do have to be old, just becoming adults (twenty years old by japanese standards) disqualifies them since they have to be innocent maidens to become <s>sacrifices</s>Heroes.

Edit - thinking of this further, Shinju could have negated the effects of Sange simply by relieving Sonko and Togo of duty after the first wave of attacks and recalled them when further attacks became apparent. There wouldn't have even been the necessity of looking for new heroes to replace the old. Neither did Shinju release them to return their sacrifices after twelve vertices were destroyed and it was believed no further attacks would come. It is obvious that after the near-death experience, Shinju decided to change the rules to avoid another Togo incident.

That couldn't be the case. If we assume that, it makes no sense for Taisha to be secretive about the Hero System's effects and continually lie to the girls. It is obvious that in face of how spectacularly the system came back to bite Shinju's ass, he(?) effectively changed his mind and decided to be less of a douche deity. Though this still does not explain why he wanted the sacrifices, except to be a douche.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but the Taisha never stated in the show that their bodily functions will be taken away forever. In fact, they outright stated that any side-effects were temporary.

You're forgetting that the Mankai is like a level-up system where you get more and more powerful each time you experience Mankai. Not to mention, the suits all evolve to compensate for the disabilities. With a constant threat, it would be foolish to let go of your high-level characters only to recruit them from Level 1 again later.

Quote from Episode 10 (16:34): "Actually, my goal is to stop the current Heroes if they go out of control for any reason." Why didn't she stop Tougou when she went berserk? That's because (16:29) "I'm on your (Tougou's) side, no matter what conclusion you come to."

1) The vertex threat has apparently somehow been eliminated despite appearing to be a perpetual infinite enemy that surrounds the entirety of the remaining world

2) Shinju-sama's heart grew 3 sizes that day and decided that just taking a random part of a little girl's body wasn't very nice.

Actar wrote:

Quote from Episode 10 (16:34): "Actually, my goal is to stop the current Heroes if they go out of control for any reason." Why didn't she stop Tougou when she went berserk? That's because (16:29) "I'm on your (Tougou's) side, no matter what conclusion you come to."

This pretty much means that Shinju intended to keep the sacrifices, even to the point of having a safeguard in case heroes would learn the truth and take umbrage. It did not work though as the safeguard was equally pissed off and sided with the rebel.