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Levonr
Joined: 19 Nov 2003
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 5:09 pm
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Zoids New Century
Zoids Chaotic Century
Zoids Fuzors
Fuzors really killed Zoids in America, it was not very good but also its because its timeslot was bad. It was doomed from the start. I think it played at like 9:00 PM(not Toonami BTW). If it was on a classic Toonami lineup where kids after school would watch Toonami then maybe there would at least be some chance it wouldn't be canceled.
Its a shame Zoids Genesis was never released. Its most similar to Chaotic Century which is not only my favorite Zoids by far but also in my top five favorite anime(no joke). Charming characters, adventure story, good comedy, intense action & fantastic music. I just find Chaotic Century immensely enjoyable.
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Mohawk52
Joined: 16 Oct 2003
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Location: England, UK
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 5:21 pm
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The only thing that comes to my mind when I see, or hear that name is the time they made their brilliant decision to air the Tenchi Muyo OVA's by butchering the episodes to shyte to where they virtually made no sense, and digitally inserting bathing suits in the floating onsen scenes. That to me is the best, (and by best I mean the worst) f***ed up decision ever made by a channel's Acquisitions and Scheduling department that I've ever seen before and since, and I work in the biz to know.
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walw6pK4Alo
Joined: 12 Mar 2008
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 5:26 pm
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Mohawk52 wrote: | The only thing that comes to my mind when I see, or hear that name is the time they made their brilliant decision to air the Tenchi Muyo OVA's by butchering the episodes to shyte to where they virtually made no sense, and digitally inserting bathing suits in the floating onsen scenes. That to me is the best, (and by best I mean the worst) f***ed up decision ever made by a channel's Acquisitions and Scheduling department that I've ever seen before and since, and I work in the biz to know. |
Even so, for a programming block on a channel for kids that's supposed to be pure mindrot action, Tenchi was the most unique and "anime" thing they ever aired in the weekday slot. You'd have whole episodes of pure harem antics and slice of life, quite the departure from shows dedicated to powering up and villain of the week.
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ChibiGoku
Joined: 29 May 2004
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 5:28 pm
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Mohawk52 wrote: | The only thing that comes to my mind when I see, or hear that name is the time they made their brilliant decision to air the Tenchi Muyo OVA's by butchering the episodes to shyte to where they virtually made no sense, and digitally inserting bathing suits in the floating onsen scenes. That to me is the best, (and by best I mean the worst) f***ed up decision ever made by a channel's Acquisitions and Scheduling department that I've ever seen before and since, and I work in the biz to know. |
For the record, there was really only one scene that affected anything, which was Washu figuring out the fake Ryoko. Washu discovers a mark on her while she's washing her, while in the dub, since the scene's been cut... kinda comes out of no where. Everything else was relatively intact, minus the Washu and Tenchi scene in Episode 7, which served no actual baring on the plot of the episode.
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belvadeer
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 5:39 pm
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walw6pK4Alo wrote: | You do realize in the interim years they were still playing anime on Saturday nights, right? It's almost as if this collective amnesia has descended and everyone forgets that Adult Swim never stopped playing anime. It's like anime can't exist without some stupid name like Toonami. |
You do realize I know that? There were some things on Toonami that weren't on Adult Swim that I still wanted to see. Sheesh, no need to get hostile.
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FireballDragon
Joined: 17 Nov 2014
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 5:43 pm
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A lot of people like the Gash Bell dub, so I'm probably in the minority since I didn't. Seriously, why pick Jimmy Neutron for Gash's voice?
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Usagi-kun
Joined: 03 Jul 2013
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Location: Nashville, TN
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:01 pm
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I really loved Android Kikaider and its 'mad machine' pathos. I think that show ran on Toonami and then got a rebroadcast on adult swim, but don't crucify me if I got that wrong (Odd number of years have passed and I'm old and forgetful). I also loved G Gundam, and I can remember feverishly hunting for the uncensored version online. The fact that they had to add-animate a black bra onto Rain in the final episode for the English release still remains absolutely hilarious.
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Just-another-face
Joined: 08 Feb 2014
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:04 pm
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FireballDragon wrote: | A lot of people like the Gash Bell dub, so I'm probably in the minority since I didn't. Seriously, why pick Jimmy Neutron for Gash's voice? |
Because she fit him pretty well? She does little boy voices quite well.
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walw6pK4Alo
Joined: 12 Mar 2008
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:08 pm
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belvadeer wrote: | You do realize I know that? There were some things on Toonami that weren't on Adult Swim that I still wanted to see. Sheesh, no need to get hostile. |
Because posts like yours never acknowledge that the continuing anime block was still going, and it was also adding newer shows. But none of that matters until the arbitrary Toonami label is slapped onto it.
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penguintruth
Joined: 08 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:23 pm
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Oh, please. *puts on a trilby*
I was a fan of "Ronin Warriors" before they were on your little "Toonami" block, broham. I was watching that noise in syndication. 'Course, I also have the DVD boxset, man, and I only watch the Samurai Troopers sides of the disc. I even watched those OVAs, including all of Message long before they were licensed, and even heard some of the audio dramas.
Psh, but you probably never even heard of those, mannnnn.
But seriously, YST was pretty awesome and I do, in fact, own the Bandai set. It's amazing how little they edited to make RW, but then again, it's a fairly bloodless show.
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belvadeer
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:26 pm
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walw6pK4Alo wrote: | Because posts like yours never acknowledge that the continuing anime block was still going, and it was also adding newer shows. But none of that matters until the arbitrary Toonami label is slapped onto it. |
Toonami was how most people got into anime in the late 90s. It's just a marking point.
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FireballDragon
Joined: 17 Nov 2014
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:33 pm
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Just-another-face wrote: |
FireballDragon wrote: | A lot of people like the Gash Bell dub, so I'm probably in the minority since I didn't. Seriously, why pick Jimmy Neutron for Gash's voice? |
Because she fit him pretty well? She does little boy voices quite well. |
Eh, I guess. But I still don't like the dub. I'm no purist, but that's just my preference.
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PurpleWarrior13
Joined: 05 Sep 2009
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:13 pm
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Tenchi Universe was a good fit for Toonami. The OVAs? Not so much since they rarely fit into a 30-minute timeslot without some editing for time (and calling voice actors back in to redub some of their lines). Episode 13 was so long, they had to stick it in a 45-minute slot and run a Powerpuff Girls episode in the remaining 15 minutes (they could've run the eprilogue omake, but I doubt a picture drama would fly on Cartoon Network). Universe was an actual TV series with far less objectionable content (Toonami censored very little). Also, it had more action while still remaining true to the OVAs' slice-of-life elements.
I always wish Slayers, Ranma 1/2, and Knights of the Zodiac would've run on Toonami. I think they all would've been successful. Ranma would've required some editing, but if Toonami can run Tenchi, they can run Ranma... KotZ did run on Cartoon Network, but in a horrible timeslot on Saturday nights at the wrong time with little fanfare and a terrible dub. If it ran on Toonami in 1999-2001, it would've had a better chance for success... Toonami was interested in Slayers, Magic Knight Rayearth, and Vision of Escaflowne, but Fox Kids picked them all up and Enoki Films started production on an edited version of the Slayers dub, but only Escaflowne was briefly run (in a horribly butchered dub) before it was canceled. Some think Fox Kids just picked those shows up so Toonami wouldn't get them.
But I adore Toonami for running DBZ, Sailor Moon, Tenchi, Gundam Wing, YYH, and Cyborg 009. I'm not sure I would've seen any of them were it not for Toonami running them.
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Covnam
Joined: 31 May 2005
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:19 pm
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Wow, I completely forgot about Ronin Warriors. Guess it's because I never got into it.
Quote: | I look back at IGPX, and to me the biggest problem is obvious: the pilot micro-series, a slick, kinetic ride about robot pilots battling it out, is a little too different from the TV series, a slightly more meditative show about the people who pilot racing robots that also happen to be equipped for combat. |
I agree, the pilot series made me really hyped for more of the same with the full length series, but what we got wasn't close. The series wasn't bad, but when you're expecting one thing and you get another, it would have had to have been amazing to over come that difference in expectations.
Great article, I'd love to read more covering other shows, even if they weren't anime.
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gloverrandal
Joined: 20 May 2014
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:21 pm
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FireballDragon wrote: | A lot of people like the Gash Bell dub, so I'm probably in the minority since I didn't. Seriously, why pick Jimmy Neutron for Gash's voice? |
They do? Everywhere I remember people trashed the dub for all the censoring and editing it got. It was also fairly unpopular and the entire series wasn't dubbed if I am remembering correctly.
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