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REVIEW: Dragon Ball Z: Battle of the Gods [Extended Edition] Blu-Ray


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dtm42



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:45 pm Reply with quote
The final fight wasn't all that great - at least, in terms of the battle choreography. But Beerus was simply awesome, in my opinion the best villain DBZ has had. He has honour, he has wisdom, he has (some) compassion, and he isn't evil so much as a bored guy would rather be entertained instead of doing his job. spoiler[I'm glad that Goku lost to him as not only was it good to see him lose once in a while but we also got to see Beerus invent a technicality to allow him to both fulfill his mission and preserve an opportunity to fight Goku again in the future.]

The other thing I liked was of course Vegeta and that scene. Obligatory clip. spoiler[To cast aside his precious pride like that to save his family . . . wow, he's been whipped real good.]
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:44 pm Reply with quote
I thought the final battle was pretty good visually. It's something they can build upwards from and it should be nice to see them have a real life and death battle in the sequel.

As for the 'non drama', I think it's because they were so heavily using the kind of laid back feel of the older Dragonball replete with Emperor Pilaf and Shu/Mai.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:19 pm Reply with quote
Agreed that some of the cg use was groan-inducing.

But Toriyama does know how to have fun. DBZ has always been known for the "intense" action, but the quality always seemed to lie in the comedy/adventure material. Beerus was the perfect fit for the villain in this movie because he actually leaned more towards that wacky sensibility of the original Dragon Ball characters.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:57 pm Reply with quote
Let's be honest, Vegeta's spoiler["That's my Bulma!" moment followed by him just beating the shit out Beerus was probably the best scene in the movie, and probably any DragonBall Z movie.]
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:17 am Reply with quote
"Dragon Ball Z's fight scenes weren't generally very good"

You know... seriously.... shame on me here, but.....

...I honestly should have stopped reading this review LONG before I even got to that line.

However, it was also that line where I absolutely did stop reading.

So at least I spared myself from whatever gibberish came AFTER that. Instead of kicking myself for forcing myself to read what I did, I think i'm going to cut my losses and give myself the positive credit for knowing when to quit.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:52 am Reply with quote
I thought this movie was a lot of fun. You can really see Toriyama's hand in it, and it had a sense of pure fun that I felt DBZ lost sometime around the middle of the Freiza saga (Great Saiyaman, notwithstanding).

Funny story, I primarily enjoy DBZ via Dragon Ball Z Abridged these days. And juxtaposing this movie with that version of the cast, its weird how close to the mark DBZA actually sticks to.

Also, this is the first DBZ anything I've ever watched with the Japanese voice cast. Quite a bit different. But I dig it.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:47 pm Reply with quote
KarmaRocketX wrote:
"Dragon Ball Z's fight scenes weren't generally very good"

You know... seriously.... shame on me here, but.....

...I honestly should have stopped reading this review LONG before I even got to that line.


Looking back, DBZ's fight scenes really aren't all that good. Anime that have come out since have done fight scenes better. Dring its time, particularly in the west, however, the fight scenes were amazing because there was nothing like it before. You even had The Powerpuff Girls emulating the choreography sometimes.

That being said, it didn't take long for anime with better fight scenes to appear on American television either, starting at least with Yu Yu Hakusho.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:25 pm Reply with quote
though i liked the ending, unfortunately that ending [spoiler] where it turns out that his servant is actually his teacher and there are 12 universes in existence and theirs is the weakest[/quote] will of course both a gateway and an excuse for both akira and toei animation to make more DBZ movies like with the revivial of F movie which unfortunately doent bode well cause to make this interesting they will have to have freeza at or near berrus level. then there is the whole god form which have the whole debate on whether or not that is the actual SS4 or not. and if akira ends up confirming it, it will mean that other one from GT is completely filler and not cannon.

so while i like the movie, it unfortunately have opened up a massive can of worms that i doubt toei and the author can control.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 1:01 am Reply with quote
leafy sea dragon wrote:
KarmaRocketX wrote:
"Dragon Ball Z's fight scenes weren't generally very good"

You know... seriously.... shame on me here, but.....

...I honestly should have stopped reading this review LONG before I even got to that line.


Looking back, DBZ's fight scenes really aren't all that good. Anime that have come out since have done fight scenes better. Dring its time, particularly in the west, however, the fight scenes were amazing because there was nothing like it before. You even had The Powerpuff Girls emulating the choreography sometimes.

That being said, it didn't take long for anime with better fight scenes to appear on American television either, starting at least with Yu Yu Hakusho.


Biggest problem is they drag out far too long to point where you stop caring. The fights also being poorly animation didn't help either.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:30 pm Reply with quote
Themaster20000 wrote:
leafy sea dragon wrote:
KarmaRocketX wrote:
"Dragon Ball Z's fight scenes weren't generally very good"

You know... seriously.... shame on me here, but.....

...I honestly should have stopped reading this review LONG before I even got to that line.


Looking back, DBZ's fight scenes really aren't all that good. Anime that have come out since have done fight scenes better. Dring its time, particularly in the west, however, the fight scenes were amazing because there was nothing like it before. You even had The Powerpuff Girls emulating the choreography sometimes.

That being said, it didn't take long for anime with better fight scenes to appear on American television either, starting at least with Yu Yu Hakusho.


Biggest problem is they drag out far too long to point where you stop caring. The fights also being poorly animation didn't help either.


To be fair: it should be noted that the Dragonball series (like much of many older anime and even some new anime today) suffered mostly from inconsistent animation rather than just straight poor quality. The issue derives from having many different animation supervisors with their own team of people who all draw the characters in their own way. Some episodes look great and even fantastic with really bold and impactful battle scenes. Others...not so much.

Kanzenshuu has a great, thorough guide to the various animation style in the series. I recommend checking it out: http://www.kanzenshuu.com/animation-styles/
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:59 pm Reply with quote
The music was a huge improvement over the Japanese version of the TV series. It had the epicness that Bruce Faulconer brought, but in a different way.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:47 pm Reply with quote
the-antihero wrote:
The music was a huge improvement over the Japanese version of the TV series. It had the epicness that Bruce Faulconer brought, but in a different way.


Bruce Faulconer's music could never hold a candle to Shunsuke Kikuchi's orchestral score.

Sumitomo's BoG stuff is pretty good. Too bad his Kai material is lacking.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:51 pm Reply with quote
penguintruth wrote:

Bruce Faulconer's music could never hold a candle to Shunsuke Kikuchi's orchestral score.

Sumitomo's BoG stuff is pretty good. Too bad his Kai material is lacking.


Meanwhile, pigs are flying if that piece of sh*t score holds up to anything. Seriously, even by JDBZ standards, that is pathetic.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:07 pm Reply with quote
penguintruth wrote:
Bruce Faulconer's music could never hold a candle to Shunsuke Kikuchi's orchestral score.


People often accuse Faulconer of being repetitive and lazy, and you're absolutely right, he doesn't hold a candle to Shunsuke Kikuchi. The track you linked to must be one of the most boring and uninspired pieces of BGM I've ever heard.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:23 pm Reply with quote
No accounting for taste, I guess.

I find that Kikuchi's score is brilliantly operatic and fittingly epic. It properly conveys what the show is supposed to be like, as opposed to artificial-sounding action movie music from the Faulconer score.
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