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enurtsol
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No prob monsieur, no LBGT.
Sometimes, we feel that Hollywood don't care if they offend Asians with some of the Asian portrayals. Heck, they even want to remake Akira with nary an Asian, complaints by people who care about social justice be damned. Directors should be free to choose their creative freedoms - if Asians aren't part of their creative ideas, then so be it.
Every society has their own hypocrisies. That's just the real world.
We were talking about female readership; now you're talking about representation? What's the jump? Nevertheless, readership doesn't necessarily correlate with representation. For example, despite the complaints about representation in Western video games, there are a lot more female gamers in the West than there are female gamers in Japan. That's because, while female gamers in Japan play pretty much only girl games, female gamers in the West play pretty much any game. So they'll make complaints about representation (and that's their right), but it won't stop them from playing games anyways (and that's fine too).
You're underestimating the YA market:
The State of Publishing: Young People are Reading More than You
Furthermore, realize that the YA market is more than just about teens, y'know: As ya can see, it skews female. As Japan females read shoujo and josei, Western females read YA books. Even if they have to go the electronic route. Indeed, 30% of respondents reported they were reading works in the Hunger Games series, but the remaining 70% of readers reported a vast variety of titles (over 220), only two of which commanded more than five percent of overall sales. |
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walw6pK4Alo
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For AKIRA, I would imagine at least some Japanese identity has to play into it, what with the bombs and everything. I know it's dumb to bring up Japan's feelings about WWII into discussions about most modern anime, and some dumb critics even try to force it where it doesn't belong with like Shingeki; but AKIRA makes no bones about its allusions.
On pages read, yeah, 13k pages of less text per page than most novels. |
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gloverrandal
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Do you a source for this? This is the first time I've heard of it and wondering how you know women in Japan only play girl games. All the stuff I've read suggest the opposite, like most conventions in Japan being dominated by females, like Tales of Festival. And when you compare Japan to the west"do you mean every country that is not Japan? Because that sounds like a really unfair comparison if so. It sounds like you'd have to do a per capita comparison if you're going to do that. I've always heard Japan has a much better environment for women when it comes to video games in both production and as consumers, to the point where most DS owners were female. This is the first time I've ever seen someone say the opposite, |
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enurtsol
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Per capita would be more insightful. Let's see what we can calculate........ Just using the US for now, since by itself, it's about a quarter of the $63B global market in 2012 (with most recent reliable numbers): With 157M active players and 47% female, that's 73.79M female gamers. With ~312M US 2012 population, that's 0.24 per capita female gamers (about a quarter of population). Japan's a bit harder to find 2012 numbers: According to CESA, Japan gamers decreased from 31.4M in 2012 to 29.1M in 2013. With 44% female of 31.4M being 13.82M out of ~127M Japan population, that's 0.11 per capita female gamers (about a ninth of the population). Here's a few more interesting things we found - it's well-known that J-gamers prefer handhelds since they can take it with them during their frequent commutes, but most portable gaming time actually happen in their rooms! You're right though that a majority of DS owners are female: And the changing Japanese perception of foreign video games, even back then 2011: Action top, RPG 4th in US 2013: Action top Japan 2010, Top 2 corner 2/3rds of the market: |
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residentgrigo
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Japanese games censorship cool: The japanes games market is a weird one because you aren´t supposed to brag about your kill streaks on twitter and so on when you become a salary man. Enough adults play them but it is the teen market they are going after.
MGS Portable Ops was censored in japan only to be Cero: C so they could sell it to teens Kojima admitted. It is also the one with a high school(not really) girl who was heavily featured in the marketing and story and alos has a "photo mode" for the women in the game. If anything japan was very good with female leads in games way earlier then the west but now are falling behind to please the teen market. RE:1 Jill design. Awesome. RE:3. Ok not crazy about it(she is a cop in a Zombie Apocalypse) but still wearing clothes. RE:5. Looks like a stripper. Still not a bad character but we are loosing the plot here. This is a horror game of some sort. MGS: V Quite was designed with the figure market in mind and look at her reception. If she(can turn invisible) was naked the whole time i wouldn't dislike that like in let´s say Terraformars(manga only) but with the design they have now i have to shake my head. Why is it so impossible to have nudity in a D to Z rated game today. Snatcher had nudity but then suddenly the Berserk PS2 game was not even allowed to have nipples but had had exploding heads. ?!? In the west Rockstar had male nudity since Manhunt but japanese censorship practices will kill you in that regard. The band aids bikinis in these new "fighting" gamas is just the crazies thing ever but they are Cero D. Be at least honest and make them naked but wiki says that the characters are 13 at times'' so maybe not ? Fighting for diversity has a reception problem anywhere btw. Look at the comments section on Ms. Marvel (Kamala Khan) or Spider-man(Miles Morales) on the non-comic news sites they were unveiled. You haven´t seen rage until you read some of Mile´s reception after only a few panels in an event comic. |
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MaxSouth
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(To Anothony K.: one last time, I promise:)
Yaoi and yuri are small niche markets about mostly imaginary type of relationships, not about real homosexual relationships. It is totally different from accepting homosexuals by society in general and the state in terms of law. In this regard, it is the same as with obscenity laws Igarashi has faced: nonsensical and insulting to human dignity. |
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