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EricJ2



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:37 pm Reply with quote
Wrial Huden wrote:
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Before I complete the collection (another 4 volumes), I wanted to know what the odds are of Viz re-releasing it in the future.


I feel for ya, Seth! I tried to collect Maison Ikkoku but pretty much gave up because of scarcity and the sky-high prices whenever I do find later volumes!


The whole idea that "Maison was a flop!" is an offensive example of revisionist history written by the winners. (For lack of a better word for Viz's management. Evil or Very Mad )
Viz gauged every series title as an extension of the manga, but in the late 90's, when DVD was revolutionizing the entire anime industry, and fans wouldn't touch tape with toxic gloves, Viz STILL insisted on measuring MI's sales by how well the 2-ep. sub or dub VHS copies were selling for $34-39.95.
At that point, the VHS were selling about as well as you'd danged well think they'd sell, but no power on earth could persuade Viz to widen their statistics.

Like AkiraKaneda points out, once Viz was dragged kicking and screaming into the DVD market, they stubbornly clung to their "Nobody bought it, because they don't like it!" lifesaver, and seriously considered not extending the DVD series past the existing VHS-dubbed episodes already in the vault.
A lot of fan-hammering later, they did extend the series with a new dub cast, but--since "nobody liked it", after all--only offered the boxsets as a private sale, through their website or Amazon, and small limited runs that ended up making Box 8 the all-time holy grail of anime DVD.

Does the public "hate" Maison?--We'll never know for sure:
(ahem) Somebody keeps poisoning the wells.

Fronzel wrote:
Let me be uncouth and brag that I have all those Maison Ikkoku DVD sets.


Great, maybe I can come over some time and bring my Box 8.
Gee, must be expensive on Amazon by now... Cool
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Polycell



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:37 pm Reply with quote
Paiprince wrote:
I've always pondered upon the lost potential of the Hentai Market. Despite rampant piracy and shrinking figures, sex still sells and hentai has a lot of opportunity for this. What's stopping them from creating a Crunchyroll/Funimation model of streaming new releases and also having a back catalog of classic titles? I'm guessing hentai production and publishing works in different ways compared to its mainstream counterparts.
There's a site called r18.com that does include ero-anime in its catalogue, but last I checked it was all unsubbed.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:45 pm Reply with quote
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how many fans REALLY made it to the end of Sket Dance?


You can kiss my behind Justin. Sket Dance was an above average well rounded series in my book. Still waiting on that second season Japan.

I'm still a little miffed that Reborn never got a dub here in the states. I know it doesn't hold a candle to other shonen anime but it was a decent watch. The series as a whole is like the red headed step child of the Shonen Jump.
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Hameyadea



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:53 pm Reply with quote
Paiprince wrote:
Most of it are adaptations of Visual Novels. LN's never tread into hentai waters no matter how close it's crossing the border.

Actually, there have been hentai LN adaptations. For example, the eroge developer Ricotta (Princess Lover!, Walkure Romanze) has authored a few hentai LNs based on their games.

Hentai-themed LNs, as with any other medium (such as manga, anime, live-action, books and more,) exist, either as a dōjinshi (literally 'self-published/indepented works/publication') or as a commercial release (porn studios, hentai anime studios, and the likes).

(Don't worry, mods. All the links are hyperlined to MAL's search results, with Ricotta hyperlinked to their homepage [SFW]. Nothing compromising or enticing here Wink)
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Cutiebunny



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:34 pm Reply with quote
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Again, unless there's a significant bump in manga sales for HxH, there's no incentive to bring over the new one. Maybe someone will at least test the waters by picking up the movies.


Based on what I saw presented at last year's Japan Expo USA, my guess is that there was or maybe even still is some attempt to bring the new Hunter x Hunter to the US. There was a large display in the dealer hall with copied settei sheets. JXUSA references it on their website -

http://www.japan-expo.org/en/animations/hunter-hunter-exhibit_1535.htm

The exhibit stood out, for me, because, unlike the Knights of Sidonia exhibit, there were no signed shikishi boards done by any of their seiyuu. I kept thinking that, had I known about it, I would have offered to have let them display my HXH shikishi drawn by the character designer.

JX had a similar display with Space Dandy the year before and that was quickly brought over stateside, so I wonder what happened with HxH.
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Tempest_Wing



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:40 pm Reply with quote
I watched all the episodes of Sket Dance. Through the really dark episodes that came out of left field and are in hindsight pretty hilarious in terms of how absurdly bleak they are and even the Gintama crossover.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 8:02 pm Reply with quote
Hoppy800 wrote:
Has anyone else ever noticed an increase of hentai adapted from LNs lately? I'm looked up quite a few hentai anime titles coming out because of boredom and quite a few have LN sources.


I think this is the first I've heard of this. However, the trend of eroge-based anime is been going on for a long time.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 8:36 pm Reply with quote
PmChivas wrote:
D. Gray-Man, according to Funimation, they did want to release the rest of the series (it sold well) but Japanese licensing issues were too complicated (expensive) so they weren't able to get the rest of series.


Yep I did some digging and I can validate that Funimation couldn't get it.

ANN wrote:
Manga also confirmed that it would not release any more of D.Gray-man. "Funimation didn't pick up season 2. There's no dub available, so we decided not to acquire it."


and to quote one user on that thread:

Vata Raven wrote:

And they would've already gotten it by now if Denstu didn't get greedy and asked for more money for the 2nd season.
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walw6pK4Alo



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:16 pm Reply with quote
Paiprince wrote:
I've always pondered upon the lost potential of the Hentai Market. Despite rampant piracy and shrinking figures, sex still sells and hentai has a lot of opportunity for this. What's stopping them from creating a Crunchyroll/Funimation model of streaming new releases and also having a back catalog of classic titles? I'm guessing hentai production and publishing works in different ways compared to its mainstream counterparts.


My guess is it all comes down to the Japanese producers not wanting to have easily accessible uncensored versions of their products on the internet. It was one thing when they were all just released on DVD, and in different coding regions, but digital downloads should only make it that much easier for someone to grab that over the Japanese DVD.

GATSU wrote:
Hentai's definitely big with scantalators, though. Or so I'm told. Anyway, the current market seems to be in doujin based off crappy harem and LN novels. So there's not much money to be made in 'original' hentai in Japan, either.


Ero doujinshi are made from anything the artist wants to make it from.
A crappy LN? Sure.
A long running kids card battle game? Absolutely, without fail.
That big new anime that everyone is talking about? Of course.
I also wouldn't say original stuff is foundering, you have several monthly magazines in publication with hundreds of artists and they appear to be doing well.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 11:43 pm Reply with quote
Cutiebunny wrote:
http://www.japan-expo.org/en/animations/hunter-hunter-exhibit_1535.htm

The exhibit stood out, for me, because, unlike the Knights of Sidonia exhibit, there were no signed shikishi boards done by any of their seiyuu. I kept thinking that, had I known about it, I would have offered to have let them display my HXH shikishi drawn by the character designer.

JX had a similar display with Space Dandy the year before and that was quickly brought over stateside, so I wonder what happened with HxH.


Unless you work with Japan Expo as official staffer and a Hunter X Hunter animation staffer was a guest of honor for Japan Expo, I doubt that you'll be able to show off your precious shikishi for display. Besides, it's kinda off-putting about seeing certain fan's name on corporate promotional displays. I'm sure Japan Expo have no problem obtaining exclusive shikishi of their own from Japanese creators and they don't have to wait in the line for hours to obtain one.

As long they have very nice professional-looking displays for event, then I think it's good enough. I think Shikishi's and other artworks are just nice bonus. If you're really bent on showing off your own collections to public, then are you willing to sacrifice your time and money for proper respectable display?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 11:52 pm Reply with quote
reanimator wrote:
Unless you work with Japan Expo as official staffer and a Hunter X Hunter animation staffer was a guest of honor for Japan Expo, I doubt that you'll be able to show off your precious shikishi for display. Besides, it's kinda off-putting about seeing certain fan's name on corporate promotional displays. I'm sure Japan Expo have no problem obtaining exclusive shikishi of their own from Japanese creators and they don't have to wait in the line for hours to obtain one.


I like that you assume that I 1) Only have shikishi with my name or an event name on it and 2) I have to wait hours to get a shikishi. Some of us buy things at charity auctions. Or have connections. Or both.

BTW, the shikishi in question was not addressed to a fan or event.

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If you're really bent on showing off your own collections to public, then are you willing to sacrifice your time and money for proper respectable display?


Who says I haven't? Razz
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Stuart Smith



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 12:08 am Reply with quote
walw6pK4Alo wrote:
I also wouldn't say original stuff is foundering, you have several monthly magazines in publication with hundreds of artists and they appear to be doing well.


I agree, there's still plenty of original material being made. The only difference is doujinshi is a more accessible format so there's more of it. Not all of those artists would be able to get a deal with a magazine, but being a doujinshi artist is a great stepping stone into becoming one and getting your name out there.

Rather than original material floudering, it's more likely we're seeing more and more doujinshi artists take up their pen. I'd say the biggest market of doujinshi is children's shows. The more popular LN adaptions like Haganai get a ton, sure, but usually the biggest market include mainstream, childre's shows like Pretty Cure or Gundam Build Fighters. My collection of Gundam Build Fighters doujinshi alone is in the triple digits.

-Stuart Smith
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FlamingFirewire



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 12:45 am Reply with quote
David.Seth wrote:
Wrial Huden wrote:
I feel for ya, Seth! I tried to collect Maison Ikkoku but pretty much gave up because of scarcity and the sky-high prices whenever I do find later volumes!



That was also the main reason I asked the question (thanks for answering Justin). I have come across the later volumes for sale, but they are a LOT of money, and before I deplete my bank account, I wanted to ask someone who had a better idea of the possibility of a re-release.


btw, it might not effect Maison Ikkoku, but you never know what might happen with some of these older licenses. For instance, Card Captors Sakura and the entirety of Sailor Moon are going back in print, and AnimEigo are still around have shown recent great interest in licensing shows of different lengths from the 70s/80s/90s. Of course, there's also Diskotek licensing some unlikely titles for re-releases from time to time.

In early March of this year, Robert Woodhead from AnimEigo mentioned that "I can't give any details but we have 3 projects that are close to announcement: one where the contract is being finalized, one where the licensor wants to double-check some license details, and one where everyone is trying to find the original film so we can do a HD or 4K scan."

You never know what might get licensed... (personally hoping for the rest of the BGC stuff, Kimagure Orange Road, Urusei Yatsura, or Yawara).

[Also, I'm just going to share this survey link here about future AnimEigo KS': http://goo.gl/forms/CXw6KqzIQ2]
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 2:36 am Reply with quote
Cutiebunny wrote:
I like that you assume that I 1) Only have shikishi with my name or an event name on it and 2) I have to wait hours to get a shikishi. Some of us buy things at charity auctions. Or have connections. Or both.

BTW, the shikishi in question was not addressed to a fan or event.


Even if it's not addressed to a fan or an event, have you considered about potential loss or theft of the item? If such thing happens, are you going to blame convention organizers? The point is, corporate promotional displays can do fine without your shikishi as they have a copy and people normally don't care it has shikishi displayed or not.

If you are dying to show off your collection at a convention, then I urge you to actively involve with major convention organizers so that you're not out of loop and maybe they can help you arrange a gallery showing. Don't fret on not knowing about JX having HxH display. It's pitiful.

Cutiebunny wrote:
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If you're really bent on showing off your own collections to public, then are you willing to sacrifice your time and money for proper respectable display?


Who says I haven't? Razz


I certainly don't know if you made public display of your collections or not. If you did, awesome. More power to you. If you have a large collection, then make an awesome display worthy of your collection. That's what wealthy art collectors do, right? However, if you're trying to use convention's promotional displays just to show off tiny portion of your collections and trying to be smug about it, then I think it's just petty.

When a small museum in San Francisco displayed anime key frame drawings and cels from a private collector, I paid money to see them. When New People Cinema building showed Evangelion 2.0 key frame drawings, I paid money to see them. Although the museum one is ill-prepared and frustratingly not informative, the Evangelion show had better interior and displays and it was worth every cent for me.

[EDIT]
Just to be clear, I do have admiration and respect toward certain fans who have financial means to collect original art works from anime professionals. Heck, they could be collecting something else instead, but they found anime drawings more appealing to them and I'm thankful that such fans exist.

However, it's kinda sad to see a cheap shot to display original art work. I understand that cutiebunny can do whatever he wants with his collection and there is that desire to spice up already presentable display, but I can't help thinking that it's short-sighted and waste of resource.

Oh here's a fascinaing article worth reading for art collectors:

How Working class couple amassed priceless art collection
[url]http://mentalfloss.com/article/48844/how-working-class-couple-amassed-priceless-art-collection
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:44 am Reply with quote
Murder, She wrote:

As late night anime has become more and more of a "safe route" to anime production, and the TV networks have become less and less interested in filling its normal schedule with anime, it's becoming more and more rare for long shows to break out of this patten.


In addition to losing those normal "waking hours" timeslots, much more anime has become dependent on disc sales to sustain them. Those long-running anime we used to see more up to the mid-2000s? They're less dependent on video sales; they can sustain themselves for long stretches from ratings and other things.

Also, there are more short series coming out each season. It's hard enough to sustain roughly half of 'em from disc sales alone (about half of 'em fail), but for a long-running series that depend on disc sales - who would continue buying thru a long series when there's many other anime series he/she may want to spend that money on? Same thing for the N. American market.

So basically, for more long-running anime to return, they have to be less dependent on disc sales. Unfortunately not many new titles could do that.

So long as they don't go overboard too. Used to be, about 200 eps is the most people could tolerate. Ranma 162 eps, Urusei Yatsura 200, Sailor Moon 200. Unless it's episodic enough like Detective Conan. Longest was DB/DBZ, but that one ya could miss a few eps here and there yet still get caught up without being lost. That is, until the serial the likes of Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece blew that up. Fans hope to see a light at the end of the tunnel.
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