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Hameyadea



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:29 am Reply with quote
Alan45 wrote:
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Yes, but we are talking about Urusei Yatsura. Between Ocober 1981 and March 1985 it had only one break longer than 2 weeks. Most of the weeks where episodes did not run were consistent with holidays or other times when special programming might interfere. Most sources refer to it as running continuously, which for practical purposes it did.

Ranma 1/2 and Inu Yasha show the same pattern. I'm still trying to figure out how Viz decided the season breaks for Inu Yasha. I suspect many of the long running shows are similar. This business of one cour seasons with a single cour break is very recent.

For UY I count 18 one week breaks, 5 two week breaks and one of three weeks during the entire run.


Maybe you conflating [season] with [story arc]? A lot of shows can have multiple [story arc] within a [season], and a single [story arc] spread across multiple [seasons].

  • The former: Rolling☆Girls (had a new [arc] every 2-or-so eps.); and

  • The latter (rarer, usually happens in SoL shows): Working!! & Working'!!. Also, if memory serves, the live-action TV show The Walking Dead had an [arc] starting in late-[season] and concluding some eps.-in in early-next [season].


From a production standpoint, a season is a cour - or quarter-of-a-year: Winter Season starts in January, ends in March; Spring Season starts in April, ends in June; Summer Season starts in July, ends in September, and; Fall Season starts in October, ends in December.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:47 am Reply with quote
While it's unfortunate that the Maison Ikkoku DVD sets 4 to 8 are much harder to find than the first three, it was at least made clear at the time of their original release that they would only be sold through two online outlets - by implication having reduced print runs. It was a similar situation with ADV's release of Prefectual Earth Defense Force; when a company announces one of their products is only going to be on sale from only a couple of online vendors, it's better to bite the bullet at the time rather than regret it later.

With regard rare 80s anime releases on R1 DVD, a much worse situation was seen with ADV's effective "limited edition" runs of City Hunter 3 and '91, and of course the infamous final two volumes of Dunbine. Because ADV never came outright and explicitly mentioned that those releases had much smaller print runs than their (obviously poor-selling) predecessors, it was only about 12 to 18 months before they were gone from pretty much every online retailer going, and then entering the realms of ultra price-gouging.

Given Dunbine 11 and 12's particular rarity to this day, I still wonder just how few copies of these were actually printed. It couldn't have been more than a couple of thousand, surely?

Funny that Dunbine and Maison Ikkoku shared a similar fate, even though they ended up being fully dubbed in English; very likely the final incidences of series of such vintage and length ever being afforded such expenditure.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:00 am Reply with quote
@Hameyadea

No, I'm trying to get across that the production system and cour or season system now used is not applicable to shows made twenty or thirty years ago.

Urusei Yatsura does not have story arcs as such. It is almost completely episodic. It started and ran until it was discontinued. Any season breaks when issued on DVD would be artificial. Ranma 1/2 and Inu Yasha were broadcast in a similar method. Even changes in the opening and closing animation seem to be random, without regard to season.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:00 am Reply with quote
Alan45 wrote:
Urusei Yatsura does not have story arcs as such. It is almost completely episodic. It started and ran until it was discontinued. Any season breaks when issued on DVD would be artificial.


Although there was a break in the '84 season (fourth?) when Oshii left the series--
Up to that point, we got four cheap-filler clip recap episodes, three of them in a row, building up to the big two part "season-finale" episodes 105 & 106 where Lum is kidnapped at the Mendou estate.
After that, the show returned with Maison's Kazuo Yamazaki as the more mellow and wistful lead director.

Just because you don't see the spring reruns doesn't mean they don't happen....
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:25 pm Reply with quote
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Yes, but you are talking about a point two years into the series. You refer to it as season four which would mean two cour seasons. And even with the change in directors, there was only a one week hiatus between 106 and 107 and another between 107 and 108. My point is that season divisions back then were a bit arbitrary.
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doc-watson42
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 12:22 am Reply with quote
I realized that people might find this of interest—it's an article about the beginning of the North American hentai anime market:

Patten, Fred (July 1998). "The Anime 'Porn' Market" (alternate link). Animation World Magazine Issue 3.4.

Hameyadea wrote:
Actually, in Sazae-san's case, the reason that non of the (currently) +3,000 episodes

Actually, about 2400 (today episode #2299 is scheduled, but I believe that count doesn't include specials). Anime smile + sweatdrop

Paiprince wrote:
I've always pondered upon the lost potential of the Hentai Market. Despite rampant piracy and shrinking figures, sex still sells and hentai has a lot of opportunity for this. What's stopping them from creating a Crunchyroll/Funimation model of streaming new releases and also having a back catalog of classic titles? I'm guessing hentai production and publishing works in different ways compared to its mainstream counterparts.

I'd ask Mr. Sevakis those questions—I'm interested in the answers, too. However, TRSI does stream some of their Critical Mass Video titles, specifically the Vanilla Series—the links are on the individual Right Stuf product pages.

Polycell wrote:
There's a site called r18.com that does include ero-anime in its catalogue, but last I checked it was all unsubbed.

That's the (second) English version of DMM's site—DMM is probably Japan's largest porn e-tailer.

jr0904 wrote:
also it seems that Right Stuff is getting on the act as well by rescuing some of those CPM titles.

Actually, they seem to have bought almost the entire existing catalog, the exceptions being Urotsukidoji and one or two other titles, which MB/Kitty Media picked up.

PurpleWarrior13 wrote:
And I enjoyed the first season of Ranma the most (the 21 pre-Nettohen episodes).

Err—eighteen (source 2), not twenty one. Anime smile + sweatdrop
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