Forum - View topicINTEREST: Lily James Accused of Racism for Writing 'Shinderera'
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leafy sea dragon
Posts: 7163 Location: Another Kingdom |
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You know, this made me think of something from Pokémon Sunday, a Pokémon-themed variety show in Japan, where they made mention of an American Wobbuffet-related event. Because it's in an English-speaking region, the Japanese voice actor then said out, "Wobbuffet!" with a katakana transliteration. (For the record, Wobbuffet's Japanese name is Soonansu, and this is the first and so far only time an English Pokémon name is pronounced on Pokémon Sunday except where their names are the same, like Pikachu and Flygon.)
Of course, no one took to social media and started calling Pokémon Sunday discriminatory for mocking English-language speakers. I'm also reminded of how in South Park, the Japanese ranguage is made fun of all the time, but then again, South Park's schtick is to poke people's buttons, so I guess people have come to expect South Park to jab in every direction anyway. I think most people will do the right thing and ignore the complainers regarding "Shinderera" because they'll know how ridiculous and out-of-proportion it all is.
I'm not.
That makes it sound like saneness and Twitter trending are mutually exclusive. Pop culture is inherently irrational, as it's based on popular opinion and novelty, but it's certainly not always insane.
How can it be banned? What sort of laws would have to be enacted, and from which governments? |
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MorwenLaicoriel
Posts: 1617 Location: Colorado |
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Yeah, that's how I feel. If people who are actually Japanese are offended by it, then she should apologize, but as a white person I don't know if it's really my place to label something as racist if the people the comment would be directed towards aren't bothered by it. I'd rather hear what the group says themselves and support it? At the very least, from my (limited) perspective on the surface it doesn't seem like it was meant to mock anyone. It comes across to me like she was maybe trying to write the "Japanese title." Kind of stupid/ignorant, but not necessarily intended viciously. I can understand someone who's Japanese (particularly Japanese-American) finding it hurtful, and I wouldn't want to invalidate that, but I don't know if that's actually what's going on. |
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H. Guderian
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Every time I see your posts with you manually signing your name in there every time I imagine it would look better with a frame. So here you go, I framed your post with quotes, because it is also my thoughts. |
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mdo7
Posts: 6253 Location: Katy, Texas, USA |
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After reading this, I guess some people are hypocritical. A Japanese show that poke fun at English speaker=not racism An American actor that put the Japanese pronounciation of a Hollywood film=racism |
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Hameyadea
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But the question is whether those "defenders of justice" were Japanese or some know-it-all from elsewhere. |
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SilverTalon01
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There are a lot of combinations like the one you just used that exist, but they aren't common place. I asked a professor at the Japanese university I was at about it and the explanation I got was that they weren't intuitive and were also awkward to pronounce and therefore rarely used. I have no idea if that was just his opinion or a widely held standard opinion. It gave me the impression that it would be kind of like putting a bunch of accent marks on vowels of an english word and then asking an american to read it.
I'd bet the vast majority are all white males with absolutely no knowledge of Japanese. I swear it seems like when you find some one white knighting for a minority on the internet, eventually you almost always find out they are a white male. Makes me think there are a lot of white guys with guilty consciences trying to feel better. |
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Animelover12313
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Damn, this woman is so racist, how dare she makes a joke about how an entire race write "Cinderella" in their language! It has everything to do with the discrimination of a race or how a race is superior to another race so it is in fact racist!
Seriously, people should start learning what the meaning of the word "racist" before spouting nonsense. |
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LordU
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Americans getting offended for other people again, what else is new? I doubt Japanese even give a shit.
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Videogamep
Posts: 564 Location: CA |
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This whole thing is ridiculous. Anyone who spends their time jumping on strangers for saying something that doesn't seem 100% politically correct needs to get a life (this is coming from someone who has watched a full 25 episode anime in one day).
That needs to be on a t-shirt. |
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Agent355
Posts: 5113 Location: Crackberry in hand, thumbs at the ready... |
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^Now I'm wondering what "person I disagree with politically" was changed from...
Some Japanese takes on Western loan words don't make much sense to my English trained ears, like "kohee" from "coffee." But, as other people have pointed out, all languages have variations on loan words, and it shouldn't be considered racist if you're just pointing that out, even in jest. |
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enurtsol
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Don't forget whitewashing.
Keep in mind twitter is big in Japan.
Even Japanese themselves make fun of it! How Japanese Teacher Teach English: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S8JeCS3P6w |
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Polycell
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unready
Posts: 399 Location: Illinois, USA |
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I am outraged by the outrage, and I believe all this talk of banning should be banned. Obviously all we have to do is kill all the bad people in the world. Then there will only be good people in it and no need for laws. BTW. I liked it more a few years ago. Don't tell Twitter about it. |
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Ulinox
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How dare she! Waisism!
{Please be careful with your mockery. Thank you. ~nobahn} |
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st_owly
Posts: 5234 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland |
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I think you mean "lacism" How dare she! Waisism! {Please be careful with your mockery. Thank you. ~nobahn} |
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