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here-and-faraway
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I totally understand your point. I don't mean that the hate originated from YGOTABS, but rather I wonder if it's helped to keep the flame burning and exposed younger fans to it. |
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SahgoDN
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About the 4Kids hate, one thing I need to stress is that, other than One Piece, their "work" is still felt by fans of the other series. I mean, if you're a Tokyo Mew Mew fan or a Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters fan or a Sonic X fan and wants a nice, faithful (non-Animax) English dub of those shows, you're out of luck. It's not like Streamline releases that are mostly redubbed -- 4Kids's handprint just won't go away.
(I guess we could say the same thing about Saban, though to be honest, the only anime property they had/have that anyone cares abut is Digimon, and Saban's-Digimon-haters are very much vocal about their feelings). |
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Emma Iveli
Posts: 679 Location: Hobo with internet |
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Man... it's been like 7 since the Funimation dub first came out and some people are still complaining about 4kids...
Funi had it much longer than 4kids did and dubbed three times as many episodes... I guess there's a certain Nostalgic vibe to making fun of 4kids... I mean that dub is over 10 years old... Also I have fanfic I've been updating on off for the past several years and it has chapters dedicated to making fun of 4kids back when they had so I think that also exasperates the problem too... |
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dragonrider_cody
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And that was a special circumstance. Warner Brothers pulled it from international distribution and bought back the rights from Sentai. As for Glass Mask, GinTama, and Eyeshield, Sentai did release the entirety of what they had licensed. They just chose not to license additional episodes due to poor sales. Every anime company has done this at one time or another. |
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se37
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I think some of the hate is misplaced for 4Kids. While there were shows that they really screwed up, like One Piece and Tokyo Mew Mew. However, I have heard that they really didn't want One Piece. There were other shows that they well such as TMNT and even Sonic X wasn't that bad. I think people on the internet just saw that bashing 4Kids was the in thing to do and it still hurts today with some of the poor jobs they did in some of the series. Despise the fact that if it wasn't for 4Kids these same people wouldn't be into anime.
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belvadeer
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Tell me about it. Those "people" really need to put a sock in it though. Yes we get it, they were a stupid company for maiming anime with their kid-friendly brain dead drivel editing, and they made their own ship sink. The funeral is over and has been over for a long time, yet people still feel the need to keep dancing on their grave, expecting someone to listen to their ranting (hint to them: you're in a cemetery, and not even the dead want to hear you). |
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EricJ2
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And to be accurate, it was Nelvana who mangled Cardcaptors, even though Nelvana had pretty much cornered the market on almost every mainstream English cartoon in the 90's, and didn't need to compete with 4Kids on their own turf except that they thought they had a player. |
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AbZeroNow
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Those are incomplete. They still did get released in some form though. (Ro-Kyu-bu is the only one that I know if that got pulled, and we don't know if Sentai initiated that or if Warner did) |
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The Coffee God
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Since Ro-Kyu-bu! got pulled worldwide except for Asia, it's likely Warner's doing and not Sentai.
It's likely it might be DVD only, since it's only being released in Japan on DVD currently. |
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mewpudding101
Industry Insider
 Posts: 2206 Location: Tokyo, Japan |
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Very happy to see Tokyo Mew Mew on the sidebar.
 It also trended on Twitter a few months ago due to Satomi Akesaka's involvement with the Tokyo Mew Mew idol group Mew 5. (I was like... There were people who didn't know about that???)
Anyway. I guess the remaining beef I have with 4Kids is that a few of their shows have NOT been relicensed for a proper DVD release (uncut and with Japanese audio). Specifically Tokyo Mew Mew and Shaman King, two of my favorites (I read the manga first). I'm still waiting for a Blu-ray box of both in Japan, and the Shaman King DVD boxes in Japan are nearly impossible to get at a reasonable price nowadays... Too bad I moved there in 2012. Now the boxes can range from 300 (not that bad) to 700 (crazy for a third of the 60-something episode series). |
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invalidname
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Stepping back and appreciating this quote because, yeah, who else in entertainment is catering to the fans like this? Movie studios? Professional sports leagues? Anyone? Easy to forget how good we have it sometimes. Not a lot of niche entertainment has more good stuff available, free-with-ads or cheap-to-stream, than we could ever consume. |
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MetalUpa1014
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In case any of you were interested, ANN interviewed Alfred R. Kahn in 2005. Can't believe that was already ten years ago.
animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2005-04-24/alfred-r-kahn Just from hearing his responses, I don't think I like this guy very much. |
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Divineking
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Yeah I agree the whole "4Kids IS DA BANE OF EXISTANCE!" thing isn't really funny anymore (and never really was to me frankly). Personally besides the abomination that was 4Piece(though admittedly I prefer Marc Diarson's Zoro to Chris Sabat's but it's a minor thing at this point), I've never really held too much of a grudge against them. Still generally prefer their dub of Pokemon, dumb cultural changes and all to PUSA's lifeless dub and the YGO dub has a mostly narm-y charm to it though I do kind of wish we could have gotten an uncut dub of 5D's. That said I'm not too sad to see them gone in the long run since they garnered their horrible rep for a reason, though they did try to appease anime fans in their final days so I'll always wonder what could have been if that had continued.
Also wouldn't mind Shaman King getting rescued with their dub attached since I have a really weird sense of attachment to it (plus the manga's superior to either version for me anyway) and I enjoy laughing at how bizarrely unedited a lot of it was for it's time, but that's an extremely personal thing. 
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Desslok
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Funny, I always thought it was Carl Maeck that was the Bad Guy of anime? Have I just not been keeping up? |
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SpacemanHardy
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I was under the impression that these days it's between Voyager and Harmony Gold. |
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