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One Piece Manga Takes 1-Week Break [2015-06-04]


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Snakebit1995



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 4:06 pm Reply with quote
Tylerr wrote:
Zagnaphein wrote:
Anyone else worry about the anime adaption and the fact it might catch up to the Manga?


Never going to happen

they do 1 chapter per episode at most these days, sometimes even less

plus they're like 50 or so behind i think.

I've never wanted a show to have fillers more than one piece.



I wish they would just do a filler arc again, but it didn't help that Oda wrote it so they had to get to Dressrosa the day after Punk Hazard, leaving them with no choice but to do a two episode filler thing in the night.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:56 pm Reply with quote
My only complaint is that they dragged the main battle on for too long, including the fight between Luffy and Doflamingo as it should have reached a conclusion by now instead of having with weeks with little advancement.

I already predicted a while back that they will have to do a filler arc in the anime after this arc to help create more space for the manga to advance. As long as it doesn't go as long as what they did for 20 episodes in Naruto Shippuden recently then I can manage.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 10:21 am Reply with quote
Everyone knows OP barely does any fillers. Naruto has the worst and longer fillers, and bleach fillers were usually entertaining and different. A filler/breather for OP would be maybe 2-6 episodes. They know how to work this people. They know how to make OP look good and not stray from the story. All other anime should take notes.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:38 pm Reply with quote
Problem with One Piece fillers is that canon is so tightly written that it's very, very hard to not accidentally contradict something later on. Toei already did this by accident twice: First with Zoro cutting steel before fighting Mr. 1 and again with Chopper consuming a lot of Rumble Balls before Monster Chopper was introduced.

My guess is that the writers at Toei are afraid this will happen again, so whatever filler they have is short and is to promote an upcoming movie. (It was pretty gutsy to write Momonga back into the story for the Shuzo arc though, if you ask me.)

Zagnaphein wrote:
Anyone else worry about the anime adaption and the fact it might catch up to the Manga?


Toei is prepared to stretch a chapter over two episodes if it ever creeps too close. A shame, considering the pacing gets completely messed up.

Wyvern wrote:
I really doubt OP would take a one year break, as Toei tends to keep its more popular series going no matter what, stopping only when the manga ends (and often not even then, as we saw with Dragon Ball and the various Saint Seyia follow-ups which are still being made.) The most likely course of action is a long filler arc.


Toei seems to have taken complaints about the filler the wrong way. I would like to have filler arcs if it makes the rest of the anime better, but they're pretty dead-set on stuffing canon stories with filler.

Worked very well for some climactic battles, but everything gets stupidly stretched out.

chex mix wrote:
It feels like Oda is dragging Dressrosa out with no idea how to end the arc so he's just inserting panel after panel of what feels like gunk filler into each chapter, so when the anime starts getting closer to this point there's no way one episode is going to be able to stretch one chapter to fit, because the chapters are already stretched to the max. Worse, because the current arc is nowhere near finished in the anime, there's no chance of a filler arc any time soon.


I get the impression that Oda knows exactly what he's doing and that the Dressrosa story is reaching its conclusion.

The length seems to be what happens when a creative and passionate person does not edit his or her creation: They have so many ideas spilling forth that it takes ages to fit them all in. Some of Oda's editors, past and present, have mentioned in interviews that they have to persuade Oda to either remove plot elements, trim them dramatically, or save them for later in the series because certain arcs become too long. The CP9 story, for instance, would've been twice as long if left unchecked.

Clearly, Oda's current editors give him a lot of creative freedom, and this is what happens when his mental shackles come off. It hasn't turned into Bleach.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 12:32 am Reply with quote
While I can see where you're coming from, I've gotten suckered into too many neverending book series where authors swear up and down they know how they're going to end it and never do, and plans change. Wheel of Time, ASoIaF, Black Jewels, pretty much anything Tad Williams has ever written, Chromagic, Incarnations of Immortality, Asprin's Myth series and Dragons series which were left hanging when he passed away, Chalker's Dancing Gods saga, Grianne's story in Shannara, any number of other things, plus stuff that just gets dropped by the publisher for whatever reason... It is what it is, but it's one thing to know how you want to finish your series arc and yet another to know how to extricate Dany from Meereen or Perrin from the Shaido warcamp. The most talented authors get stuck. IMO, that's what is happening here. It's just my opinion, based on personal experiences and my interpretation of the facts available to me right now. Clearly I'm open to change. Smile

Also, to whomever was mentioning continuity errors between Toei filler and later canon, don't forget the dragon island mini-filler-arc in East Blue which was later negated by Luffy guys saying on Punk Hazard that they had never seen dragons before and hadn't believed they were real. IMO that's the most glaring filler-to-canon continuity gaffe.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 2:53 am Reply with quote
Ah yes, that was another one. When the dragon DID show up on Punk Hazard, they pretty much ignored that filler story.

This series is nowhere near finished, so only time will tell how well or how sloppily One Piece will wrap up. Arc finales taking a while is a recurring thing in the series though, as was seen in the fights against Eneru, Rob Lucci, and Gekko Moriah. We got a couple of arcs where the antagonist was defeated soundly and quickly with Hody Jones and Caesar Clown, though with the former, I personally felt it took ages to resolve the falling Noah crisis.

There is a guess I saw where the issue to be given to Japanese subscribers on June 18th will be the one where Luffy deals the knockout to Doflamingo, which would be the one right after this break. This is because June 18th, 2015 will be the 200th anniversary of Napoleon Bonaparte's Waterloo defeat (one of the names Trafalgar Water D. Law was named after).
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 8:54 am Reply with quote
I'm going to be honest with you guys on something. I wish that One Piece had ended its anime before starting with the whole after the 2 year time skip thing. I wish the anime had waited 5 - 10 maybe even 15 years before starting the new anime seeing as how slow the manga and anime both is going including the Dressrosa arc. The new anime could've been called "One Piece: New World" or something like that.

The first anime should've been only 516 episodes (ep 516 is the last episode that uses the 14th opening Fight Together by Namie Amuro).

The second anime would've started where ep 517 started, starting with the 15th opening (being 1st instead) which is "We Go!" by Hiroshi Kitadani (same singer as "We Are!"). To me, I think this would be very fitting for One Piece to start a new anime with Hiroshi singing a new song as the 1st opening.

And to be honest, I wish that One Piece waited a few more years before even starting the anime in the first place. One Piece anime started in 1999, just two years after the manga. If One Piece had waited till like maybe 2001 or 2002, I think maybe it would've worked out a little better and hopefully not very many fillers or contradicting plot errors between filler and canon stories.

Also, I wish Eiichiro Oda had considered taking a year off before continuing with the after the time skip story arc. I think he really needs a break because he deserves it for doing so well with the series.

And also, I wish Eiichiro Oda would wrap up the Dressrosa arc since it has been dragging on and on forever now with no end in sight it seems, and I wish he would speed things up a little and end the manga within a few years or so at least. I want Oda-sensei to be able to finish the manga long before this happens, and I'm sure any One Piece fan wants Oda-sensei to finish the manga soon so that we can enjoy the manga in its most complete form.

I think if Oda-sensei times it just right, and keeps his promise that the manga will end in 10 years, I think the manga would end in 2025 (unless he meant earlier or later than this, I'm not sure). And the anime would probably end a few years or so at least after the manga ends, right? I think I would be ok with this since Oda-sensei would only be in his 50s by then. Maybe then he would really consider that vacation he deserves or at least a year long break. Smile

What do you guys think?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 3:51 pm Reply with quote
The time skip would have been an ideal place to take a break, but it's too late for that now.

The whole discussion of opening themes reminds me, though, is this officially the longest we've gone with the same OP? I know they put new animation in awhile back, but jeez, it isn't the 15th anniversary any more. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 6:25 pm Reply with quote
^ The opening changed a few episodes ago, actually.


The cool thing is that June 18 will also be my birthday, and since I'm loving Dressorosa to bits it would be a great "present" for me if that really happened!

Anyway, I can clearly see where Oda is going with the current story arc, and I don't think he's stretching it because he doesn't know how to end it (and he also proved to be too good a writer for that to happen).
Dressrosa is long, but for at least a couple of good of reasons: one of them could be the fact that before this point in the story we never had such a multi-layered character as main arc antagonist--so much that sometimes I think Doflamingo is one of the protagonists of this saga, too, and not just its villain. Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 6:30 pm Reply with quote
ahahahahha, that's what I get for deciding a few months ago that I was just going to marathon the rest of the anime episodes when the arc ended. Razz
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:35 am Reply with quote
chex mix wrote:
The time skip would have been an ideal place to take a break, but it's too late for that now.


I agree. :/ I wish they thought of it though. Maybe then, manga chapters wouldn't be stretched out to an episode length just to prevent the anime from catching up too quickly.


Sariachan wrote:
The cool thing is that June 18 will also be my birthday, and since I'm loving Dressorosa to bits it would be a great "present" for me if that really happened!

Anyway, I can clearly see where Oda is going with the current story arc, and I don't think he's stretching it because he doesn't know how to end it (and he also proved to be too good a writer for that to happen).
Dressrosa is long, but for at least a couple of good of reasons: one of them could be the fact that before this point in the story we never had such a multi-layered character as main arc antagonist--so much that sometimes I think Doflamingo is one of the protagonists of this saga, too, and not just its villain. Cool


Cool, happy early birthday then! Very Happy Mine is on June 26. Smile

I think I can see what you mean, but duuuude the story arc is so dang long! D: It's bad enough that One Piece is NOT an anime/manga franchise that you want to attempt to marathon at all due to the length of chapters and episodes, but now Dressrosa is so dang long! D: If someone was so far behind and didn't make it to Dressrosa yet, they would take a long time just to catch up (I'm also counting how much real life stuff they are dealing with like work, college/university, work, family stuff, etc).

I'm not saying that I hate this arc (I really hate Donflamingo though for obvious reasons >_>; ). I'm just anxious to see the ending, if we are even close to it yet. :/

I am a little behind since I only follow the anime and I haven't watched it in a month or 2, so I have a lot of episodes to catch up with.

I was planning on watching One Piece from the beginning someday, but the number of episodes is so intimidating >.<;;; I know for sure I won't be doing a marathon of it. It will just be like a few episodes or so per day, like maybe 5 - 10 episodes per day or something like that? Would that work, I wonder?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:04 pm Reply with quote
Thanks and early happy birthday to you too, SamuraiNinjaDragon! ^^

Actually, I read around half of the pre time-skip One Piece manga all at once (I wasn't a fan before), up to Alabasta or even more... I don't remember anymore! I didn't really "marathon" it though, but just read it continuously at my own pace.
In the end, I only needed a couple of months to read all of that, though, since after a slow start (for me at least) I really loved it (and I still do, even more than before I would say).

I like Doflamingo as a character a lot, instead, which is strange since I don't usually like villains (he's the first one I really like in One Piece).
I do think he needs to be stopped (and soon too), of course, but I've liked him since he was introduced for his realistic (albeit cynic) views on how the world works (his quote about justice from the Marineford arc is one of the best in the whole manga, imho), and for his character design.

That said, Luffy is my favourite character in the manga, I ended up liking Law a lot too (his tsundere behaviour is just too funny and, well, if you read spoiler[his flashback] you just can't not like him I guess... the poor boy needs rest for sure after this arc Sad ), and, just to make things even more complicated for me, I also absolutely love spoiler[Corazon.]
You can see that reading the ending won't be easy for me, since even all that considered (and I do care about the Dressrosa characters too), I still can't hate Doflamingo. Blame Oda for that (spoiler[I can't forget his child self in that infamous hanging scene in the flashback, and he clearly suffers from PTSD]! Razz At this point, I'm wondering if he'll die or if he'll be redeemed (even then, he would need to do something really, really big to make up for all the harm he did so far). I can't imagine any other satisfying ending for him, since I can't see him simply in prison or something similar, honestly. I wonder if spoiler[he will be turned into a toy], though... that would be interesting.

Ops, I wrote a wall of text... ^^'
Well, another reason I believe this arc has the right length is the fact that Oda probably wanted us readers to feel what it was like for the people of Dressrosa to spoiler[forget about their loved ones for a long time], and even more to feel how much Law misses spoiler[Corazon]. Crying or Very sad


P.S. I put under the spoiler tags some key elements from this arc, so don't read them if you still have to read Dressrosa, and even if you're reading it but aren't up to volume 77 yet.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:20 pm Reply with quote
Honestly, if you have some free time, marathoning the anime isn't that bad. Once you get to Enie's Lobby and beyond, there's only about 15-17 minutes of new content per episode for the most part, so if you skip the OP, recap, and "here's where everyone that's split up is located" parts, you can get through four episodes in a little over an hour, once you get to that point.

Even if you just wanted to put two hours a week into it, like on weekends or something, you could catch up in a reasonable amount of time, and if you ended up liking it you'd likely watch more than that when you had the time (and if you didn't like it, you'd drop it way before you got to that point).

As far as the manga goes, you can totally slam through it in less than a week. It depends on how fast you read, how much you care about picking out details in the panels, and again, how much time you want to put into it. Personally, I don't care to sit and pick out tiny details in the panels, because I find Oda's drawing style to be unnecessarily crowded, and I have really poor vision, so I'd rather just come to the forums and see if there's anything I missed that people are talking about. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 6:23 pm Reply with quote
Sariachan wrote:
Thanks and early happy birthday to you too, SamuraiNinjaDragon! ^^

Actually, I read around half of the pre time-skip One Piece manga all at once (I wasn't a fan before), up to Alabasta or even more... I don't remember anymore! I didn't really "marathon" it though, but just read it continuously at my own pace.
In the end, I only needed a couple of months to read all of that, though, since after a slow start (for me at least) I really loved it (and I still do, even more than before I would say).

I like Doflamingo as a character a lot, instead, which is strange since I don't usually like villains (he's the first one I really like in One Piece).
I do think he needs to be stopped (and soon too), of course, but I've liked him since he was introduced for his realistic (albeit cynic) views on how the world works (his quote about justice from the Marineford arc is one of the best in the whole manga, imho), and for his character design.

That said, Luffy is my favourite character in the manga, I ended up liking Law a lot too (his tsundere behaviour is just too funny and, well, if you read spoiler[his flashback] you just can't not like him I guess... the poor boy needs rest for sure after this arc Sad ), and, just to make things even more complicated for me, I also absolutely love spoiler[Corazon.]
You can see that reading the ending won't be easy for me, since even all that considered (and I do care about the Dressrosa characters too), I still can't hate Doflamingo. Blame Oda for that (spoiler[I can't forget his child self in that infamous hanging scene in the flashback, and he clearly suffers from PTSD]! Razz At this point, I'm wondering if he'll die or if he'll be redeemed (even then, he would need to do something really, really big to make up for all the harm he did so far). I can't imagine any other satisfying ending for him, since I can't see him simply in prison or something similar, honestly. I wonder if spoiler[he will be turned into a toy], though... that would be interesting.

Ops, I wrote a wall of text... ^^'
Well, another reason I believe this arc has the right length is the fact that Oda probably wanted us readers to feel what it was like for the people of Dressrosa to spoiler[forget about their loved ones for a long time], and even more to feel how much Law misses spoiler[Corazon]. Crying or Very sad


P.S. I put under the spoiler tags some key elements from this arc, so don't read them if you still have to read Dressrosa, and even if you're reading it but aren't up to volume 77 yet.


You're welcome, and thank you! Very Happy

I might try that then, just go at my own pace and watch a few episodes or so a day. I might even be done within a few months if I keep up the routine Very Happy

I'm a bit like you actually. I think he makes a GREAT villain, one of the BEST villains in One Piece (along with Blackbeard, Akainu, Kizaru, Mihawk, Arlong, and Crocodile to name a few).

Hm, you bring up some good points. We'll just have to see when Oda finally gets to that point. Smile

Good point, I didn't think about that. :O Don't worry about the wall of text, I'm just as bad sometimes ^^;;; I hope I didn't break a forum rule by quoting you and one other person in this post though Anime hyper; I didn't want to double post so I didn't have a choice. I know there must be better ways to do it though.

I'm in the Dressrosa arc, but I'm like 20 episodes I think behind the most current episode. ^^;;;


chex mix wrote:
Honestly, if you have some free time, marathoning the anime isn't that bad. Once you get to Enie's Lobby and beyond, there's only about 15-17 minutes of new content per episode for the most part, so if you skip the OP, recap, and "here's where everyone that's split up is located" parts, you can get through four episodes in a little over an hour, once you get to that point.

Even if you just wanted to put two hours a week into it, like on weekends or something, you could catch up in a reasonable amount of time, and if you ended up liking it you'd likely watch more than that when you had the time (and if you didn't like it, you'd drop it way before you got to that point). I'm actually a little behind in the anime (haven't started the manga yet, just the anime).

As far as the manga goes, you can totally slam through it in less than a week. It depends on how fast you read, how much you care about picking out details in the panels, and again, how much time you want to put into it. Personally, I don't care to sit and pick out tiny details in the panels, because I find Oda's drawing style to be unnecessarily crowded, and I have really poor vision, so I'd rather just come to the forums and see if there's anything I missed that people are talking about. Laughing


I might try that for the anime actually Very Happy

As for the manga, I find the manga panels too confusing and cluttered at times in some panels (especially if there's A LOT of stuff happening at once). It doesn't seem as bad when it's much calmer, but when there's chaos, it can be a bit hectic. That's why I'm only sticking with the anime for now so that I'm understanding what's happening a lot easier.

Thanks both of you for your advice and some tips on how to manage watching so many episodes! Very Happy I now have more motivation to get started on watching One Piece from the beginning (along with keeping up with the newer episodes) and making time for it. I think if I can get in a routine of it, I'll be able to finish everything in a few months at least if not more. Very Happy Wish me luck! Anime smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:56 pm Reply with quote
Good luck... but I highly suggest the OP manga over the anime (which I only watch for the Japanese dubbing, mostly, at this point).
The manga is great, and once you get used to Oda's style you'll have fun searching for all the details. Wink

At any case, I wouldn't marathon the manga; it would be a shame not to enjoy it at a reasonable pace.
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