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Rensie
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The first oav cover just some chapters, is just a bonus and promotion of the manga.
Per se the manga is not bad but neither good, but the art of this woman is fantastic, on pair with Watashiya and Reika. ps: who cares about amazon? is an american hypocrite and private lobby, japanese people can buy on other japanese stores, rest don't matter. And for foreigners the whole serie is covered by scanlators. |
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Escaflowne2001
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The whole OVA and there's a reason the first two episodes of the second series was an OVA and never aired on TV was really disturbing on a whole and I felt uncomfortable throughout. But it's all to do with the context. That was part of a story this Paradise of Innocence is just for the sake of it. There isn't any worthwhile overall story from what I've seen. That's one of the reasons Grisaia anime and games don't have the same problems. |
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Hameyadea
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Again with the pedophilia claims... There's a difference between sexual attraction to an actual, real-world kid (7-13-years-old) to depicting a fictional character in a risqué way. I'm aware why it bothers some, but keeping open mindedness isn't just "that's cool; I'm fine with it" or "that's wrong; it's just worthless", but also "I can't approve this, but this is still in the grey area".
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Sunny milk
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No, really, it's the double standards, believe me. |
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Zoneflare
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I just cant get past that premise.
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spyroyo
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Nice I can't wait , this is going too be good
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0nsen
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The manga sold >1 million copies (march 2015), though. Obviously there is a large fanbase for this. And I'm part of the fanbase, since this is currently my favorite manga. Last edited by 0nsen on Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:15 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Xavi_
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I'm in. Keep the OVAs coming :O
I agree with @Rensie in that the art is beautifully executed. If all the erotic stuff got taken away and the plot was actually worth a dime, this could've been a top pick, IMHO. |
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EighteenSky
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Looking very good, up to date now with the translated chapters, volumes 1-7 on the way and this volume pre-ordered. Cannot wait. Shame we won't get a series adaptation but I'll take what I can. First OAD was jolly good.
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Hameyadea
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Kissxsis' adaptation started as an OVA series back in 2008, and got TV adaptation two years later. So don't cross-out the possibility just yet. |
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Hiroki not Takuya
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There is a very good reason why this and other depictions in media is cause for alarm and censorship, actions begin with thoughts and feelings. I daresay every child sexual predator caught has been found to be a rabid child porn "consumer". This type of show, while not capable of turning someone into a pedo in itself, raises the sexual arousal level in guys specifically and possibly pre-pubescent ones given the protag's transformation. At least it will increase the curiosity level and we don't need more young guys trying to or actually abusing young girls as this is already a growing problem in the US (rape among the 6-11 yr old set). |
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Hameyadea
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That reasoning is flawed, because that would mean that A. It is the content - and its creators - who are responsible to the individual's behavior, and thus must be held back to fit the lower common denominator (i.e. kid-friendly). That reasoning is not that different than "this woman dressed like that, thus she was raped; She practically instigated it" B. If that claim held any water, that would mean that anyone who watches/ed hardcore porn (simulated rape, BDSM, role-play, whatnot), or at least a significant portion of those who did, were out there grabbing people off the street left and right. The same can be applied to gun violence, drugs, racing & speeding, robberies, and more. There isn't a conclusive correlation between an increased consumption of material to mimicking that material. And contradictory researches are published regularly. Were those who performed criminal activities (in this context, child molestation) consumed material that overlapped with their desires? The majority did. Were those who consumed the aforementioned material performed said criminal activities? Only a very small minority. Last edited by Hameyadea on Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:04 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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razisgosu
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It always amuses me when people raise the pedo flag against Paradise of Innocence. If thats how you see it, thats all well and good, but thats hardly the purpose of it.
Talk to any of your parents or grandparents and youll find kids used to run around naked or strip or do any of the stupid stuff in this manga and it was innocent kid fun. The fact adults are looking at it as something perverse is the problem. It doesn't need to be censored or banned or anything. You just need to look at it for what it is. Its supposed to be about the innocent ignorance of kids and the crap they get into for their own amusement. I view it no different than I do any other ecchi comedy. Some people just need to chill with defending the pixels or paper these manga are drawn on. |
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mangamuscle
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Disclaimer, I do not read said manga nor intend to watch the OVAs, they are not my cup of tea.
As I have said before, this should be obvious. In the USA, where publications like Paradise of Innocence are unheard of (and I dare to say, in some states possession of said manga would land you in jail) there is a "growing problem of underage rape". Meanwhile in japan, where this kind of publications can be bought at the corner store they do NOT have such a problem. I wish I had save the link, but there was an article about how in the 20th century the states in the USA that banned playboy (and similar publications) had a higher incidence of rape. Your argument is that this kind of publications increase the incidence of rape, when the truth is that they provide an outlet for hardwired sexual impulses. |
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Sunny milk
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If you think providing alternatives is working in the wrong way, then you are uneducated and just jumping on the rabid moral bandwagon for whatever reason. Every statistic is against your presumption. I just wish someone will clear up these kind of counter producive, self proclaimed warriors of justice. |
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