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House of 1000 Manga Finale: Part I


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Shaenon



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:41 pm Reply with quote
Oh my gosh, I love B'T X! But I don't know what I'd write about it because a) it's virtually identical to Saint Seiya and b) it's hard to find now. I reviewed it for Animerica magazine back when it came out, but I don't think I've seen a copy in years.

I was the editor on most of Saint Seiya. I was especially proud of getting letterers who could copy the style of Kuromada's sound effects, because his distinctive FX lettering is one of the iconic features of his art. The entire team that worked on that series was great and really into it.
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Beobachter



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:49 pm Reply with quote
Seconding the sentiments that this column was damn great (and my favorite ANN column by far) and its retirement especially stings because it's just so hard to find in-depth and very well-written manga commentaries on the web. Many thanks, it helped me discover plenty of great manga-ka (Inio Asano, Kawaguchi Kaiji, Moto Hagio, among some) and re-kindled my love for the medium. Ah well, time to delve on the archives while waiting for the new features!

If we're doing this, here are my personal favorites:

Your Hands are Whispering: exceptional and tremendously compassionate slice-of-life josei featuring a mute-deaf woman's triumphs and struggles in family, career, and daily life
Kindaichi Case Files : Conan could take a hike, as far as I am concerned this is THE prime murder mystery series (the classic edition, at least...)
Garasu no Kamen/Glass Mask: imagine Swan, but with theater instead of ballet; a major hit in my country back in the 1990s, might be my favorite in the "crazy Japanese kid w/ their passion" sub-genre and that's saying a lot
Adolf: my Tezuka pick, slightly edging out Black Jack. I just like political thrillers that much, and this is a damn good one showcasing Tezuka's exceptional versatility
Hikaru no Go: solely responsible for many rounds of go played with junior high friends (...on a piece of paper, no less), and a super good bildungsroman + sports drama on its own
Cross Game: my favorite Adachi, the most concise and by far my favorite cast among his works I've read
Flowers of Evil: the one entry that wouldn't be here without the column's existence!
Genshiken:just a super cozy and delightful read that oftentimes embodies SoL genre at its best
Pluto: my favorite Urasawa (his Atom has been my avatar in various outlets), political thriller revolving around robot society is like my wet dream
Doraemon: simply an ageless masterpiece; I missed Fujiko F.Fujio's works so much.
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taster of pork



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:33 pm Reply with quote
I'll miss you, House of 1000 Manga. Sad
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sokpupet



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:50 pm Reply with quote
This is because I spilled my froot loops on the living room rug, isn't it? Crying or Very sad
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Cutiebunny



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:44 am Reply with quote
^ Exactly. You're the reason why we can't have nice things Laughing

I enjoyed this column and I'm sad to see that it's going to be replaced with stuff like the One Piece column. After reading the OP topic, it doesn't even compare to the amount of detail this column regularly had. This column made raiding the local Half Price Books (still kind of a rip-off compared to online sites..) and their locked "art shelf" (where they keep the yaoi..and Excel Saga because apparently that's "porn") a weekly affair for me. I've spent more on manga in the last year than I probably have on manga during my collecting career, combined.

I understand that things like the OP column pay the bills and obviously no one is forcing me to read anything on this site, but it seems like such a waste to replace such an enjoyable column with something so...trite.

Anyways, thanks for the enjoyable reads and I'll continue to read whatever else you post on this site (or elsewhere).
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Lord Geo



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 10:15 am Reply with quote
Shaenon wrote:
Oh my gosh, I love B'T X! But I don't know what I'd write about it because a) it's virtually identical to Saint Seiya and b) it's hard to find now. I reviewed it for Animerica magazine back when it came out, but I don't think I've seen a copy in years.


While I understand not wanting to cover it due to unavailability (seriously, Viz should release it digitally via the Viz Selects brand; at least that TokyoPop release got finished), I think there's plenty to talk about for B't X. At least, I found plenty to talk about when I reviewed the manga last year. To be honest, calling B't X "virtually identical" to Saint Seiya is kind of underselling it, simply because Kurumada kind of plays around with what made Seiya so popular.

For example, while the first quarter has Teppei act almost exactly like Seiya & company when it comes to fighting, Kurumada essentially showcases why bullheadedly charging into battle without a care for your own safety is kind of dumb, and B't X showcases a more realistic idea of what that leads to. After that point, Teppei & his compatriots almost never fight with the intent of dying if need be; risking death is always the last resort for them, only being given an option is there's truly nothing else they can do. In other words, no one in B't X is like Dragon Shiryu, who's willing to mutilate his own body & existence in order to win his fight.

One last difference I'll bring up here is that fact that Teppei & the Spirit Generals never really become friends or brothers in arms, like Seiya & Co. do. They merely have a common destination & potential enemy, which means it's best for them to travel together. There are really only two or three moments where any of them actively try to help the others out. Hell, when Foh is dealing Demon General Quattro he repeatedly demands Teppei to get out of their fight, because there's really no reason for Teppei to be involved in the first place.

Really, though, I don't want to repeat ad nauseam what I already stated in my review, so I'll just leave it at that here. Admittedly, I do prefer Saint Seiya in the long run, but I think there's more than enough in B't X to recommend it, even for those who've never read or watched anything Kurumada (like myself, actually; B't X was my first ever Kurumada title)

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I was the editor on most of Saint Seiya. I was especially proud of getting letterers who could copy the style of Kuromada's sound effects, because his distinctive FX lettering is one of the iconic features of his art. The entire team that worked on that series was great and really into it.


And thank you so much, both you & Mari Morimoto (who's translation was excellent). I got into Saint Seiya because of Viz's release of the manga, so it was awesome to find out that it was in the hands of people who really cared about it. I hold an ever-so-miniscule sliver that Viz might one day re-release Seiya in omnibus format, complete with all of the proper names & terminology this time around, but I know it's never going to happen; the digital re-release was awesome enough.
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Zac
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 10:28 am Reply with quote
Cutiebunny wrote:


I understand that things like the OP column pay the bills and obviously no one is forcing me to read anything on this site, but it seems like such a waste to replace such an enjoyable column with something so...trite.


Sorry you aren't a fan of the new stuff but to claim this column is being "replaced" by that isn't quite fair.

Jason decided to retire after 5 years - which is about the same length of time most successful columns run (save a few). Rather than launch a new column, we're shifting these resources over to feature editorials. That doesn't mean everything will be general-interest or aimed at a very broad audience - there are several House of 1000 Manga topics left that will all be turned into feature editorials instead.

Jason's working on a marathon of Bleach a'la the Naruto one he did last year. Shaenon is pitching us some feature editorial ideas as well, and they can all be in the same vein as what she wrote for House of 1000 Manga (although rather than a straight-up review, you might get a few lists of recommended obscure or hard-to-find manga, that sort of thing). The spirit of this content lives on, it just won't be called "House of 1000 Manga" anymore and it won't happen every Thursday.

But we're still going to publish it and we're very happy to have Shaenon and Jason as contributors.

Just to clarify.
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Alan45
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:25 pm Reply with quote
@Zac
Articles on obscure, hard to find and untranslated manga are interesting but I think we also need reviews of currently running manga as well. I realize you have Rebecca doing individual volume reviews. However those are similar to the recent episode reviews of anime and have both the advantages and disadvantages of that format.

What I would like to see are manga reviews equivalent to the half and whole series reviews you do of anime series. That is have someone do an overview review of say the first 10 volumes of a manga (or the whole thing if it is shorter than that.) Hopefully this could be done while the all the volumes reviewed are still available on the primary market. This would be in addition to the individual volume reviews, not in place of them.

Just a suggestion.
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Zac
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:27 pm Reply with quote
That's a good idea! I'll take it under consideration. Thanks.
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Maokun



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 10:41 am Reply with quote
See you cowgirl, someday, somewhere!
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jojothepunisher



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 11:09 am Reply with quote
This column has introduced me to some great manga out there, often forcing me to marathon through them even when I got exams to study for the following day.
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Anton Chigurh



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:50 pm Reply with quote
[quote="Zac"]
Jason's working on a marathon of Bleach a'la the Naruto one he did last year. [quote]

Oh, [EXPLETIVE], I pray for Jason's immortal soul. I found Bleach amusing if repetitive the first time I did that. The second one, after I'd read Yu Yu Hakusho and Hunter X Hunter, I wanted to learn Tite Kubo's honest thoughts on homaging and ripping off other people.
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