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Kadmos1
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At this point, his last name is ironic to what he got himself into.
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Foxaika
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Haha, I suppose that's true 
Part of me thinks that people are more attempting to find him innocent out of shock and a desire for that to be the case rather than just being apologists. Perhaps it's more digestible that way for some. |
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Mr. Oshawott
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Oh yes...A "free man" in prison... But on a serious note, I'm satisfied Mr. Freeman is in prison for his pedophilia, right where he belongs. |
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Key
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If he'd been doing either of those then he wouldn't have been able to plea bargain down to only three years. The penalties for those (especially the last one) are immensely stiffer. |
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revolutionotaku
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I can understand that voice actors/actresses, celebrities or any kind of famous/pseudo-famous person tend to live a private life away from the public & their fans. But that does not fully protect them from the consequences of their actions. Scott Freeman committed a crime in private. And look what happened to him. I hope that his punishment will serve as a warning for those in the voice acting field to become more cautious & responsible for any kind of actions they commit, publicly and/or privately.
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YotaruVegeta
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That's not the only reason people become repeat offenders. Sometimes they go back to crime because it's the only life they know. Much like an addict, they go back to their old friends, and their old habits. |
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SwordKing
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All of you are forgetting that watching hentai is an automatic charge for possession of child porn still in the legal systems of the world. There is no such charge that exist that indicates possession of hentai. Everybody is forgetting that people are still being charged with possession of child porn while it is hentai. The issue is not resolved.
http://cbldf.org/2013/02/missouri-man-receives-three-years-in-prison-for-comics/ http://cbldf.org/2013/12/censorship-2013-missouri-man-goes-to-prison-for-comics/ http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/04/legal-in-the-us-watching-pixie-sex-lands-new-zealand-man-in-jail/ http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0611/324510-father-jailed-over-child-pornography/ http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2009/06/jail-sentence-for-hentai-owner-raises-first-amendment-issues/ In the Comic Defense article, the Missouri man, he also pleaded a deal with the government as well. He did that because he wanted to avoid a longer time in jail, but a avoid a court trial. He had "obscene" comics on his computer and his wife turned him in. I am not sure if he had to register as a sex offender. In both Jared Fogle and Scott Freeman's cases, there is no information about the matters involved in the cases and people start believing that the law is right in labeling them sex offenders and be done with them. There is no information being released so people are just jumping to conclusions. There are also madmen that hunt down sex offenders and kill them even as early as 2013. So it is dangerous to assume that every sex offenders deserves to be killed or maimed or be on the streets. http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/18/13943695-man-sentenced-to-life-for-killing-sex-offenders-judge-chastises-supporters?lite http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/blog/bs-md-ci-vigilante-justice-sentencing-20141030-story.html These are articles from 2012 and 2013 respectively. Mass hysteria is not going help here. One of the crazies in the article, Pat Drum, even has supporters. Mass killings is not the solution here. Do not throw out logic and please stay calm. 
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addiemon
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At least in the U.S., that is false. Both Dwight Whorley and the Missouri man whose case you linked to were charged with obscenity, NOT child pornography-- these are different laws, and as abhorrent as I find the content, I agree that the obscenity law that covers drawn depictions is a serious breach the constitutional right to freedom of speech (and thought-- it's thoughtcrime, IMO). That is NOT relevant to this case, however, in which Scott Freeman was charged with and plead guilty to child pornography-- suggesting (if not outright indicating; I'm not a lawyer) that his materials were of real live flesh-and-blood children who were abused by the very creation of said materials. Which would NOT excuse hunting Freeman or a sex offender down, but no one in this thread is advocating anything of the sort, so...maybe you should stay calm. 
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
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There are plenty of horrible details about what Jared Fogle had and it wasn't hentai. Freeman was convicted on 8 counts of possession of child pornography. Nowhere does it say "obscene comics". The absence of that language in the report does not provide you with reasonable doubt that it was in fact "obscene comics" and not child pornography. "Innocent until proven guilty" is what you say before the person is tried and convicted, not after a conviction (in this case a plea bargain) in a desperate attempt to make every single sex offender seem like an innocent victim of circumstance. |
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Mr. Oshawott
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One problem with this: Scott Freeman has pleaded guilty to eight counts of real child porn. Eight. For all I know, the prosecutor's more-than-sufficient evidence that would have strongly convinced the jury of his wrongdoing was what led him to take the plea (a very lenient one at that). As far as I'm concerned, Scott is right where he's at, in prison, where he can't cause anymore harm with his pedophilia. Besides, it's the victims that are in need of help, not the convicted child pornographer. Last edited by Mr. Oshawott on Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:24 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Buzz201
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As has been pointed out, it can't have been hentai because that's a completely different law, and in Texas the prosecution needs to prove you were aware the images were in your possession and that they were of minors. Anybody still convinced of or attempting to prove his complete innocence at this point is simply delusional, and probably beyond reason. |
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Raul Coppe
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Except getting help for this sort of addiction is pretty tricky, especially in the united states. Sure, it's not an okay thing to be addicted to at all, but even if you wanted to get help, it's really not that simple. While I'm generally behind the idea of registers for sexual offenders, it does kinda conflict with the idea of prison being about rehabilitation, about 'doing your time'. I mean it's important to keep tabs on those who are more likely to re-offend, but then you have to ask, really, if someone is likely to re-offend, then why are they being released? Does the stigma of being a known sex offender prevent ideally reformed prisoners from reintegrating back in to the community? Anyway hey what up
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mdreura
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This is unfortunately not the case more often than most people think. I was discussing this subject with an attorney friend over the weekend and he pointed out to me that the average sentence for child molestation is about 10 years while it's not uncommon for child pornography sentences to be 2x-4x times that amount. I can't find the study he mentioned, but this 7 year old WSJ article lays the context out quite nicely: Making Punishments Fit the Most Offensive Crimes
A good article for the number people in this thread asking "Why would you defend a pedophile?" What if I told you Federal judges are doing it too? In court? |
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Lili-Hime
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Ok, there is a huge, huge difference here and you're making a dangerous false equivalency. The judges you mentioned are speaking out against the practice of racking up counts so that someone guilty of child porn possession doesn't get 200 years for 20 counts. What they are NOT doing is claiming that the convicted are really somehow innocent even when they plead guilty because the system is somehow unfair. THAT is what many in this thread are doing. The users defending Mr. Freeman are not arguing the harshness of the sentence but whether or not Mr. Freeman did anything wrong at all. Mr. Freeman got a pretty sweet deal with only 3 years for 8 counts. By your Arizona example he'd be in prison for 80 years! He is not being unfairly persecuted. The judges in the article are not going to call a guilty man innocent like some users have done; they just want more freedom to reduce sentences. Their arguments have nothing to do with the arguments of anyone in this thread so far. TL;DR Judges arguing against mandatory minimum sentences =/= internet users excusing child porn possession with things like 'but what if they were 17? Age of consent laws suck anyways!" |
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mdreura
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Which seems to have little bearing on the conversation between Shippoyasha and Key conveniently quoted at the top of my post? |
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