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NGE1113



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:15 am Reply with quote
HitokiriShadow wrote:
And even if someone has reasons for waiting the box sets, doesn't mean they should go around asking "when is the box set going to come out" right after a series ends (or starts, in way too many cases).

On this issue, I've consigned myself to at least a one-year wait for any collection (two, if FUNi is involved). Heh, I'll just use the wait time to watch a classic title from yesteryear (just got around to watching the Escaflowne TV series).

penguintruth wrote:
I remember asking at this year's Funimation panel at Otakon about a possible Fullmetal Alchemist boxset in the future. I didn't understand until later how wrong I was to expect one so soon - the show was sitll finishing up its individual release!

I committed that same fallacy once at AUSA 2004, when I asked Toshifumi Yoshida (producer for VIZ media at the time) about the InuYasha second season collection. I remember getting a somewhat annoyed response in return.

LydiaDianne wrote:
Thought of something else. While I agreed with Zac about supporting the industry, I am absolutely, positively NOT going to buy Bleach until it comes out with a box set(s). I made that mistake with Inu Yasha and I am not going to do that again with a series of sizable length.

A simlar rule of mine when I was considering the singles/collection route: series over 52 episodes have a much better chance of me holding out. I just don't like committing so much money to any single series.

EDIT: fixed a quote bracket
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MorwenLaicoriel



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:31 am Reply with quote
HitokiriShadow wrote:


Perhaps, but usually most of the viewers are also minors. It's more of a general objectification issue, which is hardly limited to anime or Japan. Try watching today's popular TV shows and movies. Hell, one of the longest running franchises in the U.S. excels at this. I'm talking about the James Bond movies. No matter how good a female agent may be, she is almost guaranteed to sleep with Bond, or at least show a good deal of skin (usually both). This is hardly limited to that particular franchise, of course.


Actually, I'm refusing to go see Casino Royale because of that feature of the franchise. I have a tendancy to be *too* offended by it, I know, but it drives me up the wall. Is that really the sort of guy I'm supposed to be fawning over...?

Bond aside, yeah, fanservice is a problem. I try to steer clear of shows that have too much of it. There ARE shows out there that DON'T have fanservice in them, though. Fullmetal Alchemist is one example--a few skin-bearing outfits, but that's it. I'm pretty sure that there wasn't much in Noir, either (surprisingly, considering it's an anime about female assasins).

The boxset thing kinda annoys me, too...there's some series that I would probably wait on a boxset for, but when I'm a big fan of the show I really feel like I should try to get the singles. I'm lucky enough to have a decent amount of spending money (although I've been spending waaay too much money lately), so I can manage it...

I wince everytime my friend tells me "I'm getting Princess Tutu as soon as the boxset comes out". I mean, good grief, the discs were $7 each in a recent ADV sale--how much more of a discount do you need??
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ichido reichan





PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:32 am Reply with quote
I differ on the "anime in plural" answer of Answerman.

Anime in plural would be "Anime shows" "Anime works"

now regarding of movie would be " Anime movies"

and generally " OVAS" and "Specials" also denominate anime in plural, to say "Animes" is like to say "moneys" because Anime is just a denomination for "Cartoon show made in japan" this means, yes people, Thundercats was animated in japan so It is Anime.
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bennyb



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:30 am Reply with quote
All I have to say is this:

LoL at a Unicron dying somewhere.
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Abarenbo Shogun



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:11 am Reply with quote
Theirs an easier way around waiting for the box sets.

Buy Used DVD's. Seriously. If you just can't wait for the Box Set release, just do a google search a/or a careful ebay scan of the listings, and you'll be able to find someone unloading their old collection for the cheap.
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JackBassV



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:14 am Reply with quote
There are no official figures for Misato, but in I believe in the game Iron Maiden 2, she's put at 163cm, or 5'3" (approx).

AS for dress size, just LOOK at her. There's no way she's an American size zero. She must be a 6-8 (UK 8-10), and her bust isn't huge, either.

As for Pizza Cats, there have been several attempts to get it released on DVD. I have written to Saban personally (and so have several others from SPC) but they never replied to any of us. The only way to get this series at the moment is via bit-torrent (a UK torrent site has released a torrent containing all 51 episodes + movie (the last 3 episodes). Quality varies from good to very poor, but beggars....

It's up to Saban, but it's their loss. They may believe it won't sell, but the Super Mario discs are selling fairly well in the UK (they're only a couple of pounds (about $5) each), so I don't see why the far Superior SPC wouldn't sell.

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scrapps



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:38 am Reply with quote
I know I can't be the only one who prefers thinpaks because they take up less space. Sure it's nice that they are cheaper, but I've run out of shelve space so that now dvds are just in piles. I now generally have the policy that longer series must wait until there are boxsets available just because of space issues, unless it's something *really* special...like GaoGaiGar.

Man I hope the next generation of video packaging is smaller.
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Deltakiral



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:43 am Reply with quote
As always good work Answerman, you get an additional ten bouns point for dropping the name of my favorite cartoon as a child.....Captain N....the gamemaster. And don't tell me you didn't want to be like Kevin (the hero from Capt N) and be transported to a magic place like Videogame land.

Anywho I though that the boxset question/answer was a good thing to get answer since it seems like everyweek someone is asking about when series X is getting a boxset. Go by the singles.....price grabber anyone?

Delta
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hikaru004



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 5:31 am Reply with quote
Yeah, I'm also guilty of buying a few boxsets. But that was because to catch up to buying the original series was such a pain and those boxsets were soooo convenient. I avoid thinpacks because I still want the extras.

I buy season collections because of space and money considerations, especially when the series is over 100 episodes.

@Rant: Yeah, sexual fanservice exists. I used to be more sensitive to it, but now I'm not. It helps sell the DVDs. That panty shot of Asuna and other Asuna pics in the recent OVA was pure fanservice. I laughed when I saw it because I knew why it was there. Guys aren't exactly exempted from it either [Yuuichi in just a towel or viewed nude to slightly below the hips (front and rear) in Kanon 2k6 comes to mind.] It's just that the anime that is in the public consciousness is mostly male orientated. As more shoujo and jousei anime comes over, I'll bet that awareness of fanservice aimed at female viewers will rise.

But, there are other types of fanservice. Those references to other series and mascots are in anime too and are fun.


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Ai no Kareshi



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 5:36 am Reply with quote
Personally, I think the ranter is full of it.

While I'm no advocate for the promotion of fanservice, I must point out that anybody who becomes attracted to minors in real life because of their portrayal in anime is not mentally mature enough to watch anime in the first place. Little girls in anime are drawn sexy. Little girls in real life are not sexy. In my opinion, it's proposterous to even try and make a connection between the two.

Are there really people stupid enough to let their idea of the ideal woman be affected by the physical appearance of an animated character? O_o And I certainly don't see women being objectified in anime any more than they are on Western television.

On another note, I loved the Samurai Pizza Cats dub. And I say this as someone who usually has no interest in the English dub of any anime. I believe the dubbing company was justified in their almost bizarre levels of editing, given the many cultural references in the Japanese original, and the general wackiness of the show.
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hikaru004



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 5:44 am Reply with quote
Ai no Kareshi wrote:
Are there really people stupid enough to let their idea of the ideal woman be affected by the physical appearance of an animated character? O_o


I can vouche for the fact that there are a few idiots like that roaming around. Not me, of course.
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Ai no Kareshi



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 5:47 am Reply with quote
hikaru004 wrote:
Ai no Kareshi wrote:
Are there really people stupid enough to let their idea of the ideal woman be affected by the physical appearance of an animated character? O_o


I can vouche for the fact that there are a few idiots like that roaming around. Not me, of course.


Well, I guess the fact that we've got someone ranting about it proves that we have at least one. Anime hyper
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sunflower



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:03 am Reply with quote
Re: fanservice

Anyone who's mature realizes the difference between cartoon fantasy and reality. When I look at the male fanservice in anime I watch, like in Haru wo Daiteita, I grin and enjoy the sight of pretty men. Then I put it away and have an honest to god relationship with my real life husband, whom I neither expect nor desire to act like an anime character.

Anime isn't real life. It's entertainment. Most of us know that. For the few who don't ever get that, well, they'll end up otaku living in their parents' basement forever and won't reproduce anyway, so hey, Darwinism in action.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 7:25 am Reply with quote
I personally find myself buying box sets/thin pack, mainly of older series that I may not have been aware that I would have liked, and completely dismissed it.

For example, Rahxephon. I disliked the first couple episodes, and never bothered watching any more of it, until sometime earlier this year when I saw the thinpack at a con, and a friend urged me to give it another shot.

That or really old series that I can't find single discs of anymore.

But I agree that people who instantly go off saying " I'm waiting for the box set." just after volume 1 of a new series is released, are really a problem amung anime fandom. Naturally it's not going to hurt the industry if a small number of people do that... but unfortunatly it's more and more the case these days.

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Samurai Pizza Cats on DVD... now that would be a release I would very much like to see.

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Violent/Gorey Anime have their place... but then again, even in the "glory days" there still weren't that many. For a lot of us it did seem that way, since they were already produced, and just had to be localised.

That or there are still Manga like it being produced... just a lot of it is crap, and never makes it to Anime form.

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So Misato falls under the curse that the Evangelions themselves do? Seemingly no real accurate measurements?

How strange.

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I just personally wish that fanservice wasn't needed in a series.

I'm not really against it, or for it. But I have seen it added unneccisarily to a lot of series that just didn't need it, and would have been better off without it, and I have watched series where it was fitting and funny.

Then there are some series that pretty much can only boast that it has a ton of fan service. Or those that have so much blatant fanservice, that after a while you just forget it's even there.

It's fine in moderation... but having too much, or putting it in a show that doesn't need it, is just pushing it.
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Steroid



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 7:42 am Reply with quote
ichido reichan wrote:
I differ on the "anime in plural" answer of Answerman.

Anime in plural would be "Anime shows" "Anime works"

now regarding of movie would be " Anime movies"

and generally " OVAS" and "Specials" also denominate anime in plural, to say "Animes" is like to say "moneys" because Anime is just a denomination for "Cartoon show made in japan" this means, yes people, Thundercats was animated in japan so It is Anime.

But the word "cartoon" can mean a show in and of itself, and so can the word anime. People can say "comedy" instead of "comedy show" or any other genre instead.

The point being that since Japanese doesn't use plurals and depends on the context, that if we're going to borrow words from it, we should follow their rules.

As regards boxsets, I find that, when I purchase DVDs, I get a higher quality from individual discs than packs. Thin-packs generally just include the flimsy little box and the disc, wheras the individual ones are more likely to have liner notes and such.

The Ranter wrote:
I believe that fanservice has no positive function in anime.
OK, first principles, I like those. Fanservice is there for sexual stimulation. I hold that as very much a positive function. And many of the Japanese AV and gravure idols have figures comparable to the anime, even if not to the extremes. Overall, I see nothing wrong with anime characters showing a little sexuality, especially if it encourages it in the viewers.
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