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INTEREST: Shima Withdraws Official Backing for Pearl Diver Mascot


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leafy sea dragon



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:20 am Reply with quote
She'll also continue to be in use around the city, albeit in limited capacity and, presumably, in contexts unrelated to pearl diving.

Yuvelir wrote:
IIRC the previous mascot was pretty much like that. And it wasn't all that popular, a full-body wetsuit with a face isn't very appealing.


Dunno about that...they are kind of skin-tight, and Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire does fetishize female divers a bit.

mrsatan wrote:
Pearl diving will be dead in mere decades unless they attract a new generation. If young people liked this mascot, then they should ignore the complaints of the older people.

Here's a video I watched on YouTube about a young woman that decided to take up being an Ama. All seemed good at first, but then all the old women started getting jealous of all the attention she was getting and life became too stressful for her and she left.

They're just not being forward thinking about all of this.


That sounds like a recipe for a quick death of pearl diving short of a generational resurgence by an unrelated group of people or scholars dedicated to doing it all perfectly authentically. I've seen hobbies and activities die in this way. I've also seen a hobby I'm personally into almost die until it caught the attention of young people into retro things. (Not that I'm old; I was more or less one of those young people who joined for a totally different reason.)

Then again, money talks. If there's enough demand for these pearls, there will be pearl divers, even if they're not the traditional ama pearl diving.

But really though, what were the ladies in the old guard expecting? For everyone to ignore the new recruit?

zrnzle500 wrote:
And I can see wanting to get away from their sexualized past. Even Playboy is getting away from porn.


Wait, I thought the Playboy magazine was going to cease publishing. It's simply just moving away from porn?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:27 am Reply with quote
Ah, so the mascot has been "withdrawn". The artist probably asked for this to happen due to some of the complaints.

While I can understand it not being a realistic representation of the pearl divers...but the fact that they are older people is a negative in and of itself. If your profession is made up of people that, on average, are aged 70...well, there's something wrong there.

I understand that it is not an attractive job, but what are they doing to bring some attention to the profession to attract people to pick it up? Yeah, you can complain, but it is a bit pointless if you don't have an alternative to it, at the end of the day IMO.

TarsTarkas wrote:
zrnzle500 wrote:
Even Playboy is getting away from porn.


That is a bad example. Playboy's reasons are strictly monetary ones. In today's world, most people can get their porn for free off the internet. So it is no longer the draw it use to be for readers.

It's sad. But only because of one thing. And that being, the old "gets caught with Playboy, says they buy it for the articles" joke no longer works.

Saw an episode of FRIENDS a couple of weeks ago, that had that joke, and it was kind of sad. Further in the future, that joke in movies/tv shows will just fall flat.
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Hiroki not Takuya



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:31 am Reply with quote
Here is the USA Today article on Playboy, still publishing, just no "fully nude" photos. Whether suggestively posing women in see-through stuff qualifies as porn I'll let someone else debate. I doubt PB will become a literary magazine anytime soon.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2015/10/13/playboy-magazine-nude-pictures-internet-porn/73856022/
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Estelle the White Mage



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:14 pm Reply with quote
It seems these Pearl Divers are quite out of touch in terms of advertisement. They hire someone in order to draw people to their town and its famous trade, but then throw a fit when they don't agree with how it is advertised.

The artist the town hired to promote their city did his job. He created a mascot that was to attract both tourists to their town, as well as expose people to their pearl diving.
Would it make sense for Carls Jr. to put acne-ridden teenagers flipping greasy burgers in their television commercials, followed by closeups of LDLs clogging one's coronary arteries? All in an effort to accurately describe what the food product actually does? Or does it make more sense to bend the truth by putting supermodels eating the product in suggestive poses, all of whom probably have never eaten there or avoid fast food like the plague?

If the pearl divers are upset that the mascot isn't "authentic" enough, then they should have drawn the mascot themselves. Surely they will go down with the ship they built (since a more authentic mascot will not have the draw the former mascot did), but that's the bed they make.
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TarsTarkas



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:30 pm Reply with quote
Estelle the White Mage wrote:

Would it make sense for Carls Jr. to put acne-ridden teenagers flipping greasy burgers in their television commercials, followed by closeups of LDLs clogging one's coronary arteries? All in an effort to accurately describe what the food product actually does? Or does it make more sense to bend the truth by putting supermodels eating the product in suggestive poses, all of whom probably have never eaten there or avoid fast food like the plague?


Just want to say I loved that analogy. Thanks.
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