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Hey, Santaman! [2006-12-15]

As for the One Piece thing I hope it can do something. become a hit in Britian or something and then make its way back over here. They're a lot futher in the manga over there right?

Actually, it failed, because it wasn't given a chance. 4Kids just tried to turn the series into another marketing gimmick instead of selling the show on its own merits.

It happened with DiC[k] and Sailor Moon-for a few months-so it's not impossible.

1. One Piece. The only reason why it failed here was because of the horrendous editing. 4Kids shot themselves in the foot a million times over!

I think you're underestimating how popular One Piece is, or rather, could be. 4Kids has had a habit lately of licensing anime that really has no business being on network television at all, butchering it to hell, and leaving it for dead when no one watches. It happened to Shaman King, and it happened to One Piece. So why did it take so much longer to get to this point with One Piece? Maybe it's because Joe Everyviewer could see the great show that was hidden under the 4Kids layer of crap. Maybe fans of the Viz manga tuned in to see their favorite property on television. Whatever the reason, the fact that it lasted over 50 episodes shows how powerful a property One Piece is.

Life's just full of surprises, eh?

Look at else has been turned into anime: Tom Sawyer; Swiss Family Robinson; Peter Pan. I think I'll stick with the original novels.

I didn't see One Piece explode in popularity following that arc. Drum has been cited as "the most emotional" of all OP arcs, and 4Kids actually preserved that, including precedent-setting references to death, dying, and exploding.

To say that "4Kids never gave it a chance" is a bit uneducated, since they actually did experiment with a relatively "normal" style of dubbing and it had no effect on the American market. Given how frequently Drum was rebroadcast, it's obvious that people simply didn't cue into the show.

Toei pulled the rights to SM and now it's unavailable in the West; given that incident, and noting SM's status in Japan, the same will probably happen to OP.

I used to be a dub-basher when I was just watching the dub and reading the manga, but when I actually saw the original I realized the show in its Japanese form would *never* click with American audiences.

It's due to the cultural sterotypes we imprint on anime; something like OP creates a conceptual imbalance in our minds since we expect characters who look as ridiculous as Oda's characters do to be jumping around, screaming or smashing stuff. Instead they talk about politics, relationships, tactics or engage in "slice-of-life" stuff like eating food or flirting.

That kind of show isn't what America would agree with readily; I've shown Japanese OP episodes to people and they've hated the show.

Now, for something as big as OP is in Japan, if it doesn't carry the child market it isn't worth bringing over to America; what's the point in licensing Pokemon if it only does as well as Chobits?

I mean, look at the popularity of Bobobo and check how VIZ Media won't even touch additional volumes of the show; they recognize that Bobobo can't appeal to children, while its college-oriented audience is too small to make it successful relative to its popularity. So, it stays in Japan.

OP fans are just bitter and rabid;

That said, just you wait; in 2007 we're gonna get Ken Akamatsu's Les Miserables, where Jean Valjean is a hapless ronin virgin college kid and Cossette is his 12-year old panty-flashing jailbait half-sister from the future.

Seriously. 90 percent of all comments made on unmoderated forums or forums moderated by idiots are designed specifically to piss people off or get some kind of reaction.

The best you can say about [One Piece] is that it underperformed...

Last week Chris Li asked us to “write letters to our congressman about the trash on shelves.”

But still; screw Ashley, right?

you haven't seen Hokuto no ken?

let me put it this way, my girly girlfriend (y'know the one that likes pink color, anything pop etc) broke up with me just for showing her a clip of the movie of the first of the north star (The movie) they hate that like the plague.

It probably didn't take off, because its target audience was turned off by 4Kids' original dub of the show.

I'm guessing it was a case of too little, too late by then.

We'll see.

*cough* Naruto *cough*

So in other words, filler?

Perhaps the subs they were reading were a little too literal, and came off flat, as a result?

Chobits did pretty damn well for itself before its 15 minutes ended. I think a better analogy would be Ultimate Muscle.

I think they're waiting to assess sales for the dvds, before they decide whether to continue the manga. And I see more Bobobo fan art in Jump than OP.

I'm not actually a fan, but I still feel 4Kids blew it.

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I heard your wish.

Oh, holy crap. You have GOT to be kidding me.

The Tempest though? I've always thought it was one of the most boring of the Shakespearian plays. Conicidentaly I was thinking about this today. I wouldn't mind an anime adaptation of the Taming of the Shrew or King Lear focusing around one particular character I loved from it.... just, because I think it would be interesting.