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INTEREST: Hillary Clinton Campaign Targets Potential Voters at Pokémon Go Locations

Real leadership would be what in your opinion?.

Ummm no we haven't republicans have allowed the fringe elements to take over and dictate party policy (The Tea Party), democrats on the otherhand have been pretty good about keeping their fringe elements under wraps to the point you wouldn't even know they exist.

I detest these two as politicians. They can leave our game alone, useless people.

Every single thing to come out of the Clinton campaign is pure cringe. Is there anyone who genuinely likes her? I can only see people voting for her because they hate Trump more or because of the sole fact she's a woman.

Real leadership is being principled to a point but also being able to recognize that comprise isn't a dirty word and that the people that don't agree with you are not evil. Real leadership is about not opposing ideas just because the other team came up with them. It's about being able to find common ground and work with those that disagree with you in a way that makes everyone look like adults. We don't have that in D.C. or in a lot of State and local governments.

Please take off the blinders. I clearly can see that team blue's fringe elements have sway in the party. One only needs to look and see Clinton's need to drift to the left to win the nomination over Sanders to see it. Beyond that, you seem to be implying that because it isn't as visible as the republican's fringe that makes it better or ok?

The rest of your post I'm pretty much going to not comment on because I fear even with what I've already posted this is going to turn into a even bigger red vs. blue debate. You clearly are in the camp of "go team blue!"

Please note you are the only one defending a side in this exchange.

If you want to make yourself feel better about your horrible candidate go ahead, but that doesn't mean that candidate isn't horrible.

encrypted12345 wrote:

There's no good justification for not voting

Except I'm trying to catch them all while these blowhards get in the way with their minutiae.

Real leadership is being principled to a point but also being able to recognize that comprise isn't a dirty word and that the people that don't agree with you are not evil. Real leadership is about not opposing ideas just because the other team came up with them. It's about being able to find common ground and work with those that disagree with you in a way that makes everyone look like adults. We don't have that in D.C. or in a lot of State and local governments.

Especially since this mentality leads to people dismissing the idea of voting as not being important even though who you vote for in election cycles especially in state races determines such things as whether you'll be able to collect as much money from unemployment benefits as possible when you lose your job or whether (if you're a woman) you'll be able to go to Planned Parenthood Center to get cancer screenings or an abortion.

I'm done trying to reason with you BadNewsBlues. You clearly are a rah rah blue is awesome person. You continuely point out flaws of only one side and want to pretend that your narrow partisan view of American politics is somehow not slanted. I won't defend the bill manure republicans pull but you clearly can't do the same for the democrats.

Trump is a self serving egotistical fame seeking piece of dung that says whatever crazy thing he thinks the media will fixate on. He is a horrible candidate and honestly the republicans deserve to lose the election because of him. Hillary is a lying out of touch female dog that will say the moon is made of cheese if she tought it would win her an election. She is also a horrible candidate and the democrats deserve to lose the election because of her.

Its sad you can't see that.

I'm done trying to reason with you BadNewsBlues. You clearly are a rah rah blue is awesome person.

You continuely point out flaws of only one side and want to pretend that your narrow partisan view of American politics is somehow not slanted.

I won't defend the bill manure republicans pull but you clearly can't do the same for the democrats.

Hillary is a lying out of touch female dog

that will say the moon is made of cheese if she tought it would win her an election. She is also a horrible candidate and the democrats deserve to lose the election because of her.

Its sad you can't see that.

bones2039 wrote:

Real leadership is being principled to a point but also being able to recognize that comprise isn't a dirty word and that the people that don't agree with you are not evil. Real leadership is about not opposing ideas just because the other team came up with them. It's about being able to find common ground and work with those that disagree with you in a way that makes everyone look like adults. We don't have that in D.C. or in a lot of State and local governments.

The polarization of candidates is a direct result of the polarization of the American populace as a whole though. The politicians' polarized views are because a candidate willing to compromise and accept viewpoints from the other party will lose in an election because such a person is viewed as weak and wavering. Presently, standing firm and digging their heels in the floor is seen as an admirable trait, and the fans of both of the major parties see the other one as an enemy to be opposed at every turn.

Historically, polarization has happened several times over the United States' history. Immediately coming to mind was that point in time when two of the dominant parties were the Masonic Party and the Anti-Masonic Party, for instance.

I wish people would shut up about Pokemon GO already.

Then you don't let Pokémon Go interfere with when it's time to walk into the polling booths.

The fact compromising results in losing elections certainly plays a part into why none of our elected officials are willing to do such a thing. The sad fact that serving the people has become a career instead of a service is probably a big part of it. If we had more people in D.C. that were there to actually represent the people instead of consolidating their own power we might have a better government for the people and by the people. Instead we have a government that is more concerned with keeping their own power than actually working for the people.

Polarization of course has always been present in politics, however with the digital age and the speed at which information can travel makes it seems so much worse today than it did even 10 years ago. Maybe its because I've been more exposed to it over the years but it just seems like every little thing becomes a big cluster because so and so said X when they should have said Y.

This is despite the fact that if you've been looking at what's been going on in the country only one side has been making bad decisions or doing nothing to the detriment of voters. Democrats haven't made it apart of their party platform or policy to restrict voting, restrict the rights of women, persecute muslims, rebuke gays, cut welfare, disparage minorities, or obstruct legislation (meaningful leglislation).

Yeah because nothing says being more out of touch then labeling a female a dog for literally no reason (even as you're corresponding with another female at that). Or casually disregarding the fact that all politicians lie except Hillary's lies are nowhere near as bad as you and others seem to want them to be, but controversy manufactured by Republicans and bought into by people too lazy or stubborn to ferret out facts for themselves is another story for another time.

(Carly Fiorina is also a businesswoman, but associates of her say that she's actually quite introverted, and unlike Trump, is not comfortable at being the center of attention.)

If by "restrict voting" you mean "require photo ID", that's something most developed countries already require; the US is rather unusual in how late it's even being suggested(much like with EMV chips).

As for obstructing legislation, the last major party-based obstruction in my state legislation I remember was when Democrats holed up in another state to prevent a quorum, which is a childish as it gets.

Hillary has contradicted nearly everything she's ever said.

You also have to ignore how sloppy she was with classified information and the suspicious timing between donations to the Clinton Foundation and beneficial behavior towards the donor.

Charges of Hillary being a snake in the grass come from all angles - except "reasonable prosecutors", which presumably means those who don't want to commit suicide with two bullets to the back of the head.

What exactly have democrats done that's just as bad and indefensible as what I've mentioned the republicans have been doing at the state and federal level for the last seven years?