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Gina Szanboti
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If you can detect passion and motivation behind a work, that would be something that sets it apart, making it no longer generic. However, when you can feel those things coming through, it's generally because there are other aspects that demonstrate that passion for the work. Unless you're interviewing the creators, how would you tell they were passionate if everything about the work was just a generic collection of tropes and by-the-book animation and storytelling?
I didn't say generic things couldn't be successful - people seem to like the same things over and over. That's why Hollywood keeps churning out generic movies that can barely be differentiated from each other. But from a critical standpoint just being successful doesn't mean it's good. |
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Key
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I don't agree, per se, that there's "good generic" and "band generic." When used in reviewing a creative work, "generic" most typically equates to "lacking in originality." Now, a series can still be good despite that (though it's not easy!), but in a reviewing context it's definitely a negative.
Oh, I'd use the word for certain parts of Claymore (especially some torture scenes), without question. But that's because I interpret (and use) that word as "potentially objectionable to some parts of the audience." For instance, Cross Ange is, in my book one of the edgiest series in recent memory because it has a pretty amazing talent for pissing some people off while still being very entertaining to others. |
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zrnzle500
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On the matter of the correct use of edgy, Key's is in line with the dictionary definition, though it can be a stretch under a few of the dictionary definitions. Cross Ange is provocative (i.e how Key defined it and one of the definitions/synonyms I found) but I can't say it is avant-garde (many of the others). The common use of the word these days is more in line with how SkerllyF say people define it. I can't really say which is right per se as while on a technical level the first is correct but language is something that is always changing and if that is what most people mean when they say it, then it is right in a sense as well.
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leafy sea dragon
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So do you mean that when it feels like the work has the creator's heart and soul put into it, that becomes something that makes it unique and thus no longer generic? I think there's no manga or anime series going on right now where this is more easily seen than Black Clover. On one hand, it is incredibly derivative, without much, if anything, in original ideas. On the other hand, people eat it right up, because for the people who like it, they consider it a well-written story. According to your definition of "generic," it'd only be as such to people who dislike it, am I correct? Something that's by-the-numbers has the advantage of being accessible though. By the way, there are a lot of Hollywood movie fans out there who think anime series can barely be differentiated from each other. The more of a fan of something you are, the more easily you can discern things apart of whatever you're a fan of, and the inverse is true too. |
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Key
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But the flip side of that argument is that the more of a fan of something you are, the harder it can sometimes be to see the flaws in it. |
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leafy sea dragon
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That's true too. I do notice sometimes, fans will find flaws in whatever they like that no one else seems to have a problem with. |
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