Forum - View topicINTEREST: Tokyo Comic-Con Bans Males Crossplaying
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relyat08
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Yeah, very much this. I am 100% against a regulation like this, and by no means think it's okay. But most places where this(and Goboiano's even more of a rip-off post) have been linked, the discussion is just a bunch of hatred and name-calling. With no one really even questioning why things like this happen. I guess it's unusual to be as curious as I am. Understanding the mentality of other people and societies generally seems like a good thing to me. |
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slau783
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I think it is great that you want to provide more context to the story. Though you may want to move that link to the body of the article where it is referenced. When you place it at the end with that via tag it makes it look like that is where the information comes from. I always like to read the source article. Which is why it was confusing when it brought me to a rocketnews article from four years ago that had nothing to do with Tokyo Comic-con. The link at the bottom should be current relevant material which deals directly with the topic on hand from which the article is based upon. |
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Daelowsensei
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Good lol |
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redranger
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Good! The last thing I want to see is some fat hairy dude who thinks he's hilarious cosplaying as Cammy or Misty. It's disgusting.
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kefkaownsall
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Okay I've not posted in years for some context, during that time I started transitioning from male to demigirl so this is important for me to post on.
First this rule makes no exception for those who identify as feminine genders so amab persons are screwed. 2. How can they know who's trans and who is not. I mean I have a deep voice but like look at Julie Vu . 3. Many persons unsure of their gender try cross dressing to figure it out. Example I tried on a skirt before figuring out I was a girl 4. It's none of your business to tell people how to dress. 5. I doubt this will stop flashers or other perverts just security do their jobs |
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ValwinZ
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stop trying to make this about trans anything or tumblr made up genders thats not what this is about |
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kefkaownsall
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1. NB genders existed for centuries in other cultures such as Navajo
2. I was pointing out how this hurts the lgbtqia community |
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peno
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Maybe I'll be a little more judgemental here than I should, but a lot of women in Japan seem to wear miniskirts even in colder months. The worst thing is, they were learned to do so in schools. Secondary and High schools (and sometimes even Pimary schools) in Japan require their female students to wear miniskirts as part of their school uniforms, which not only attracts pervs to them, but also learn them to wear such a revealing outfit for the rest of their lives. If the schools required long skirts or even pants for girls, I believe this may not be as big of an issue in Japan as it is now. Sorry for a little OT topic here, but when you discussed female harrasment, I had to put my two cents. Of course I don't want to sound like the women in Japan called this upon themselves by wearing revealing outfit, but be honest, it may be part of the problem, especially with those upskirt shots discussed here before. |
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HeeroTX
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Many schools DO require "long skirts", it is the GIRLS that hike them up (usually AGAINST THE RULES) into miniskirts as a fashion statement.
The policies prohibit several other types of costumes. Do you take any issue with TCC's ability to regulate: -Over "provocative" (ie. sexy) clothing -Military costumes -"Gory" costumes -Costumes with oversized headgear All of the above are prohibited by TCC policy in the SAME rules as the one being discussed. Either the event has the right and capability to tell people what is acceptable at their event, or they do not. You may feel they are jerks for WHAT they choose to regulate, and that may be an entirely fair criticism. EDIT: Here's an article about the skirt thing: http://www.biginjapan.co/biginjapan/high-school-skirt-length-posters-criticised/ notable quote from the very end: No doubt these posters will be stolen from schools and wherever else they are put up, most likely by the same people who are stealing boy’s baseball uniforms (happened last week and culprit was a university student) or women’s underwear (happens every week in most places in Japan). |
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Lord Oink
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Since when do you have to use the changing room of the sex of the character you're cosplaying as? I'm pretty sure Dude Hestia has to use the man's changing room
If rules and regulations were never made because a very small portion of the population would be hurt by them then we would have zero laws and rules. You can't take account for every single person on the planet, it's unrealistic. Something people seem to be overlooking is the fact that only applies to men. Why? Because men are the only one who do this kind of crossplaying as a joke. Women crossplay all the time but don't do it in a way like men do. Fat women generally dress like female characters just like every other woman. If you want to blame anyone blame the oh so funny guys who treat it like a joke and think they're oh so witty to cosplay as a scantily clad female character. Those guys ruined it for the rest of you.
Those school uniforms are mini skirts because the girls purposely hike them up to make them short to be fashionable. Besides, American women show far more skin than Japanese women do. The whole point of a school uniform is the regulate the way kids dress. Otherwise you got high schoolers wearing booty shorts and those shirts that are so loose you can see their bra through their arm hole like in US high schools. |
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peno
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And that's the problem here, the schools did not follow their own rules and eventually just made it a rule (at least some of them, I don't want to generalise here). On the other hands, boys aren't required or even allowed to wear shorts (except some Primary schools), they have to go to school in long pants or they will be in trouble. Why is it that girls can get away with it and boys can't? The whole purpose of school uniforms, as you wrote, is that students wouldn't wear inappropriate outfit. But if the school uniform itself is either designed or tolerated to be inappropriate, the whole point of school uniforms go in vain.
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FenixFiesta
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I will try to make this brief and not get worked up about it, we collectively glanced over the title of the article, some actually went through links others didn't, the nature of the beast however comes in the responses and what we have is some posters trying to "justify" arbitrary rules which even some go along with the nature that "the rules at the Con are in fact arbitrary", yet certain posters try to make it out that the rules for the convention are some sign of higher morality giving stories about OTHER crimes or perceived lewd acts.
The issue is that the responses no longer become about "convention dress codes" and shifted into the area of "what does society think about x", which depending on how individual responses take it may or may not be tying back to the original article (face it, a fair chunk of people got article title baited) It is clear that some of the responses go into the territory of individual values, and it is probably time for such people to take a moment and step back as they have said there piece, I could go on for quiet a bit more but I am going to try to be done for the day on this thread. |
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animalia555
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#McKinnon
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To be honest, this sort of makes me sad, especially regarding COSplay involving characters whose gender is often the subject of dispute even among fans.
Consider Hunter X Hunter, for example. Alluka and Kalluto. One is the biggest trap of all time, the other dresses in feminine clothing despite being a male. Kurapika is often mistaken as a female and even has cause to dress as one within the series on more than one occasion. It's a disservice to the trap characters everywhere. I understand that there are reasons, ranging from bad cosplay to a potential lawsuit, why the rule may be in place... but it also cuts down on a fair number of available cosplays. |
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Touma
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A trap is not a female character, so this rule might not apply. That depends on exactly how the rule is written, and how it is enforced by the staff. |
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